210: Selena Samuela Gets Engaged plus our interview with Candy Simeone


John Mills joins us to discuss the surge in SoulCycle memberships.

John Mills took a field trip to check out Echelon and Tonal.

Dr. Jenn – I’m exercising a lot. Why am I not seeing changes?

Forbes writes about the best way to find hotels with a Peloton.

Peloton partners up with Bronx Commons.

Angelo joins us to talk about what you need to know about macros.

Selena Samuela gets engaged.

Robin Arzon has a new children’s book out.

Chelsea Jackson Roberts had tips for how to keep your hair in place during yoga.

Jess Sims talks about her love of the WNBA and her new gig!

The Peloton blog has recommendations for good workouts when you’re tired.

Various instructors tackle the One Question Interview – Why do you run?

Adrian Williams has a new strength stack for you.

Kendall Toole sits down with the Today Show to discuss her mental health journey.

Peloton kicks off Pride month with a new collection for the boutique.

The latest Artist Series features Rent.

Be sure and wish Cody Rigsby a happy birthday on June 8.

All this plus our interview with Candy Simeone!

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210: Selena Samuela Gets Engaged plus our interview with Candy Simeone

I’m always in a weird mood when the episode we record is before we go on a trip. We’re leaving for Disney World. We figured we’re going to get our money’s worth out of these vaccinations. We got everybody all shot up and we’re with vaccines, to be clear. We’re very excited. We’re going to do Disney and a couple of days at Universal.

I’m glad to go somewhere as a family outside of this house.

We haven’t gone anywhere together collectively since the summer of 2019. This will be fun.

I’m very excited about it.

What do you have in store for people?

We’re going to talk about John Mills tried a Tonal. That’s going to be interesting. There was an article about a whole new list of hotels that’s out there. We’re going to talk about Peloton giving back. We’re going to talk about a whole bunch of Peloton instructors being in the news. There’s this little tiny tidbit of things that we’re going to talk about related to the instructors. We had a visit from Dr. Jenn. We also had a visit from Angelo Poli of MetPro.

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We shall.

Joining us is John Mills. How’s it going?

What is going on?

We’ll jump right in. You posted an interesting article this week about Equinox says that the CDC’s new mass guidance sparked a surge in memberships with customers returning to the gym.

They’re going back to the gym.

That’s what they’re saying based on a week over week comparison. They’re saying that they’re up 55% from that week to this week, which could be anything. It could be there were two people last time and now, there are three people. We don’t know, but they’re suggesting that it’s a surge. It might mean something. I have questions though. If it’s more than one person that made the 55% if it is the number, then why are people going back? Is it because they missed the gym so much and now they feel comfortable?

Not everybody got a Peloton. They may not have the ability or maybe they had an apartment and they don’t have a very good gym in their apartment.

Some people enjoy the gym experience. They enjoy the ritual of going and getting out. There are also people looking to get out. As someone who puts concerts on sale for a living, I will say concerts are coming out hot, like crazy hot. Everything I put on sale right now is guaranteed covered on the first day.

I’m working out in the gym and I got those two TVs up now. I couldn’t take the old one down. One has like a game and the other one have CNBC or something. A story comes up and they’re like, “AMC is some hundred and something percent now.” I went, “What were they in January?” In January they were $2 a share. Now they’re $62.

I don’t know if you know the backstory there. There were people doing weird things on Reddit. Because a bunch of big firms were headed on a short sale, people on Reddit were like, “Let’s stick it to the man. Let’s all go buy a bunch to make it not lose money so they lose their ass on a short sale,” and it causes a huge rally. Ever since then, it’s been like the geek chic stock to mess with.

I thought something happened and people went out to see a bunch of movies.

A Quiet Place 2 came out and did $47 million opening weekend, which for pandemic times is amazing. It did more than Godzilla versus Kong.

We went to go see it in the actual theater, which is the first time we’ve been to a movie in over a year. It was nice. I’m not going to lie. Nobody else is back at the theater yet. It’s still real dead. We had most of the entire place to ourselves and it was nice.

People are getting back out. Relative to Equinox, I was thinking, did they start going back because everybody’s vaccinated? Equinox SoulCycle has this rule, I don’t know if they’re managing it, which is if they had the vaccine, you can workout without the mask. If you haven’t had the vaccine, you got to keep your mask on while you’re working out.

Is it like an honor system? The whole world could take a penny, leave a penny jar right now. Except instead of a penny, it’s COVID.

It made me wonder, did they hear that and they thought, “Now we’ll be able to tell who we stay away from?”

What you’re probably going to see is the people that never believed it was real and didn’t get the vaccine don’t care. They’re going to keep doing what they’ve always done. The people that did care and believe it and got the vaccine are like, “This is as safe as it’s going to get, I’m going to go back out.”

That’s the new normal. It’s like, “I got the vaccine and I believe in science, and science says that I’m going to be safe so I’m going out. I’ve done everything I can possibly do. Now I got to trust that it’s going to work.”

In the movie stuff, this study by Equinox, the numbers sound like people are moving back outdoor.

Gyms will see a resurgence from where they were at, but I still think that there’s been a paradigm shift in how people exercise. You will still see gyms. I don’t think they’ll ever go away, but you will see fewer of them is my guess. You took a little field trip this week and it jeopardized your role on the show because here you are on an Echelon product.

Look at this photograph to prove. John is sitting next to the Echelon. What is happening here? Could you explain this to me?

Someone told me I should have cropped the picture down to where you only saw the N in Echelon so they will assume it was Peloton. I and Erica were out looking at Step Mill. She wants a Step Mill. We went to one of those shops that sell all kinds of fitness equipment. I found it hilarious in there that they had an Echelon bike and Echelon rower. They had other stuff in there too. The Mirror and a bunch of stuff were in there so I just started snapping shots.

A real Mirror or the Echelon knockoff?

I didn’t even look for the Echelon knockoff. They had the actual Mirror.

The Echelon knockoff is just a big roll of tinfoil.

I’m like a kid in the candy store. She’s talking to the guy going, “When can we get the Step Mill delivered? What’s the delivery costs? While she’s doing that, I’m talking some selfies with the Echelon stuff, trying to plan a comedy post. The guy’s looking at me like I’m nuts. Eventually, she finished and I asked her to take the photos.

Is this a store that sells new equipment or is this a store that does second-hand equipment?

They are resellers.

What’s a used Echelon cost? Is it straight on the barter system like, “Here’s three chickens and a bale of hay?”

I should have asked. I’ve got a bunch of stuff in the basement that I would be willing to trade. I didn’t ask that question.

I got to know, what did you think of the Echelon because you didn’t post anywhere. John, what are your thoughts?

I had a few people ask me that question. They were like, “We want to know how does this thing perform?” Unfortunately, all I did was sit on it like this. I never did one row so I don’t know. I can’t answer that question.

Why didn’t you do the row?

This reeks of I didn’t inhale.

It does. John, you did inhale.

I did not inhale.

You inhaled an Echelon and we both know it.

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I got no exercise fitness value out of that photo op.

I am very skeptical, John. We’re going to change gears a little bit. You also took a trip to a different store. You went to Nordstrom. I can tell by the backdrop and you checked out a Tonal.

Here’s what I think is going on with him checking out the Tonal. This is my theory. I think he’s a little intimidated by how swollen I am from all the Tonal that I’ve been doing. He’s like, “I got to keep up because look at Tom over there like Lou Ferrigno.” That’s the most current weightlifting reference I can make.

You took it way back with Lou Ferrigno. A good 60% of the audience is not going to know who that is.

He’s the first Hulk.

I had to connect it to nerd culture too.

You checked this out for real. That is an actual biceps curl. Don’t tell me you’re getting curl.

We all are talking about Tonal. You had never actually utilized one.

I had talked to Kate over a year ago. I was like, “I’m going to go down and check one out.” The closest place was like in Jersey or something. I don’t feel like driving an hour and a half or so, but I wanted to do it. I kept waiting. After doing the Echelon photoshoot, I realized that I do want to check out this equipment.

You had to get back in your good graces. That’s what it was. He’s like, “If I show up in just Echelon photo, maybe I’m not going to be on the podcast anymore.”

I got to do something about this problem I created. Erica has been suggesting but I don’t know if I want a Tonal now. I’m not sure. I realized we got to Nordstrom. It’s like fifteen minutes away. They got to have the Tonal in there. We went there having no clue.

I know wives are different but it’s not typically a tough sell when your like, “Let’s run to Nordstrom.”

She was quick to say okay. We found it and as we found it, I didn’t think she was going to even touch it. She asked me to try it out. I told the sales associate, “Let me try it out.” I thought it was awesome, which then got her to try it and she loved it too.

Did you feel like it was stable enough? You’re fit like you can lift a lot of weights and that’s something people are concerned about with the Tonal like, “Can I lift weights with it or is it more for like a Tom level thing or somebody that can lift more than a carton of eggs?”

When I first heard about Tonal was from you guys. I don’t know whether that was a year or so ago. My first reaction was, “I got 400 pounds worth of weight. I do a million different things.” That’s your immediate reaction, which is a contradiction to what I tell most people. I spent years and all I had were a pair of 20s and a pair of 30s. I could come up with a million different ways to use those 20s and 30s. It’s a complete contradiction to that. It was the first thing that comes to your mind.

Two hundred pounds isn’t very much, that’s the first thing you think.

It was a contradiction of the things that I’ve been saying for years. I eventually came away from that. I was like, “That doesn’t make sense.” When I tried it, it was clear that that’s way more than enough weight than I will ever need.

I couldn’t help but notice your bicep curl was on 41 pounds. How did that feel compared to what you do at home?

I didn’t know what to expect. She put it on some mode that got increasingly got harder as I was doing it. I was growling with it. Someone else asked me that same question. That was like the ninth rep in that set. It was at 41 at that point and the tenth one was heavier. I remember the ninth one was heavy, but it was around what I normally do. I don’t think it was 41. It probably felt more like 45 or 50 because that’s where I’m normally at.

You might’ve been in the mode where it goes up and down, depending on where you are in the motion.

As you’re releasing the tension, it’s pulling and is creating tension, so you’re under tension the whole time.

You were halfway up, not all the way up. It might’ve been in the middle of changing the weight. because it does that dynamic weight as you go through the movement.

I got it. The tenth one, I don’t know what that was but that one got me. I should have taken a picture of that. We didn’t catch that and I don’t know what it was. It was something crazy but it was heavy.

TCO 210 | Losing WeightThey were adding outside weight. They put the three chickens and the bale of hay from the Echelon on there.

Something happened like the sales associate was pulling on the cable or something. I don’t know.

We’re glad you like it since we’re talking about it so much. We would feel like idiots, if you were like, “That’s a big piece of junk.”

The thing was awesome. Especially for me. I’m a younger guy, 51. I was a dumb ass most of my life. If it was something dumb to be done, I did it so I got hurt a lot. I have bad joint problems because of all that dumb stuff. What I found was working with Tonal, it was much more comfortable to do the things that I normally do with the Freeway, which for me is something I got to consider. I’m a little different from most people. Weightlifting is nostalgic for me. It takes me back to my childhood that I did with my father, going to the gym in the ‘70s and it’s a bunch of iron all over the place. To me, it’s a solace place to have that experience. I wasn’t looking to change that because I get in there and that’s my peace.

I’ve picked up on that a time or two when we talked.

It’s like at work. As technology progresses, I have to work now. When I was younger, I was always an innovative guy. I was the guy going, “You guys need to be doing this. This is what’s coming.” I’m 30-plus years into my career. When those young people are coming telling me what to do. I’m like, “Wait a minute. Am I like stifling innovation?” I’m doing that at work.

You’ve become the man.

I’m that old stuffy relic dude that’s going, “You don’t need that.”

It’s like when people don’t want to Kindle. They want to hold an actual book or read a newspaper. I can get it from that.

I totally understand that. I see where you’re coming from. I’m excited for you to try someday if you ever get back in there, there’s a mode called Smart Flex. I think you’ll dig it because it’s specifically helpful to joints. What it does is dynamically changes that weight. Whatever your easiest part of the movement is the heaviest the weight goes. Your midpoint is the midpoint of the weight. Whenever you get to the part where it’s the hardest, it goes down a couple of pounds. It helps build your joints back up. With you talking about that, that might be something that you might dig. I’m just throwing that out there.

I don’t know the science around why that was more comfortable for me than what I’ve historically done.

We got to get you and Dr. Liz talking.

I just know it was more comfortable. I was doing similar weight. I got to consider that. I got injuries and some of them are funny how they happen. They’re stupid, dumb stuff. I got a lot of arthritis and I got a lot of different weird things. I got to start thinking. I can’t be a dumb ass forever. I guess I could.

We should probably say while we’re here, if anybody out there wants one, you should go get one over at Tonal.com and throw in The Clip Out as your promo code and you’ll get $100 off smart accessories.

John, if you ever think about it. I’m just throwing it out there.

If I do that, I’m going to say, “I heard about it from this wonderful show, The Clip Out or something like that.”

We’re glad that you liked it and hear the report back about what you think about it. Until next time, where can people find you?

They can find me on my Run, Lift & Live group or page on Facebook. They can find me on Instagram @RunLiftAndLive or at RunLiftAndLive.com.

Joining us is Dr. Jenn Mann, licensed marriage, family and child therapist, and sports psychology consultant. She was a five-year national team member in rhythmic gymnastics and a Peloton aficionado. We need to remind people of that. She’s here because she loves Peloton.

I love psychology, sports psychology and Peloton. I’m obsessed with all three.

We have a question from The Clip Out community. This one comes from Katrina Cassander. She says, “I know you can’t outrun a bad diet, but if you’re exercising hard regularly,” she bikes every day, strength most days. Should she see some results in weight-loss size, not so much scale numbers, even if her diet isn’t perfect. What are your thoughts on that?

I did my doctoral dissertation on eating disorders, weight loss and intuitive eating. This is a topic that is near and dear to my heart. I’m also someone who once upon a time had an eating disorder for a good decade and recovered now going on many decades. I get where she’s coming from. A lot of the time, what tends to motivate people to either start working out or to continue working out is seeing “results,” which I put in quotes because ultimately, we are exercising for longevity, for strength, so that we can have strong bones, so that we can be flexible, so that we can age well, all that sort of stuff. We all want to look good and that’s understandable. She should start out by saying, “I understand that you can’t outrun a ‘bad diet.’”

I don’t believe in good and bad when it comes to food, which is why I followed the intuitive eating philosophy, which is about listening to your body, eating when you’re hungry, stopping when you’re satisfied, and not depriving yourself, which creates binge eating. All that aside, the first thing that does give me a tip-off is, is there anything going on with the eating habits that you are concerned about that you feel like may not be the healthiest, where you feel like there could be some room for improvement without going into a deprivation state? To me, that is always the big concern when people talk about their diet.

Secondly, it’s always worth going and seeing your doctor, making sure that you get an endocrine workup, that your metabolism is doing okay, that your health is good, all that sort of stuff is in line so that you set yourself up for the results that you’re hoping for. The other thing is to look at and evaluating. I have seen people who have not lost weight because they weren’t sleeping enough. There are a lot of studies that have been coming out saying that not getting enough sleep can prevent you from losing weight or who are making some dietary choices and doing a lot of unconscious eating. Studies show that when you are watching TV and eating, you eat fifteen times more food.

That sounds a little light, to be honest.

We tend to go unconscious and sometimes even making a commitment for a week to not watch TV while having dinner can make a big change, where you actually are tuning in and eating your food. Tuning into your body and stopping when you’re satisfied, instead of when you’re full can make a big difference. It’s also worth, if you see your doctor, you analyze these things and you still are saying like, “Why am I not seeing results?” It’s worth meeting with someone who has expertise in this area, even for one session, with a dietitian or a nutritionist who can take a look. Sometimes we have things in our diet that we have these ideas as being healthy. We may not realize that we’re adding a lot of calories or fat or that thing to our diet that may not be worth it.

I don’t believe in deprivation. Deprivation is a set up for binge eating, but sometimes there’s something that we think, “I’m eating this because I read some article that said that this is great to eat. I don’t even love it that much, but I’m eating it because it will help me lose weight,” when ultimately is hurting you and preventing you from losing weight. It’s worth keeping a food diary and scheduling an appointment with someone who knows more about this, who has the expertise and going over what you are eating and seeing what works and what doesn’t.

TCO 210 | Losing WeightI will also say and keep in mind, I’m not licensed in anything except to drive. I feel like there’s a greater disconnect between how I look and what the scale says. Since I’ve been doing Tonal and then added the MetPro like the eating plan that they’ve provided me. What I look like at 200 is what I used to look like at 190, even though I’m 10 pounds heavier. I look like a non-Tonal MetPro 190 at 200.

It makes a difference working out.

In addition to the muscle gain that you tend to have when you’re working out regularly is also that when we were looking at ourselves every day, we don’t necessarily see the changes. I know in my eating disorder days, there were times where I would see a picture of myself and I’d be like, “I thought I was heavier than I am.” Even now when I post my Insta Stories, I’m always like, “My abs look good. How did that happen?” Sometimes it takes a while for our brains to catch up with our bodies because that is a slow process. It’s like watching your hair grow. You don’t go, “Since yesterday I grew.” Sometimes you look at a picture of yourself a few months later and you’re like, “My hair is so much longer.” A lot of the time, it takes our psyche a while to catch up with the physical changes in our mind.

First off, I’m a little offended by the hair growth analogy.

Sorry. I know it’s a sensitive subject. I apologize for that. I would be more sensitive moving forward.

Speaking about the pictures, I always tell people, “You should always let someone take the picture even when you don’t want to do one.” When you look back, you’ll be glad you had the picture. One of two things is going to happen. You’re going to gain weight or you’re going to lose weight. If you gain weight, you’re going to look back at that old picture and be like, “I used to look a lot better than I thought.” If you lose weight, you’re going to look back at that picture and be like, “Damn, I look good now.” Either way, it’s a win-win, so don’t be scared of it.

If you can use it to not beat yourself up, it’s a win-win.

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I would do that. I would beat myself up, “I hate this picture.”

Thank you so much for joining us. Until next time, where can people find you?

You can find me on social media, @DrJennMann and all my Insta Stories, I always post my Peloton workout every day. You can check out what I’m doing on Peloton. You can also find me in InStyle magazine. I have a weekly column called Hump Day with Dr. Jenn. That usually comes out on Wednesday. It’s all about sex and relationships.

Forbes.com had an interesting article about where to find Peloton as you travel now that we can travel again or it’s ramping back up. I know that that there’s a finder on the Peloton website, but some people say it’s a little clunky.

There’s also a Facebook group that’s called Peloton Hotels & OnTheGo, which we have chatted about before. It’s a database because people go in and they’re like, “I went to Nashville and I found a new Peloton.” There’s this woman, Irene Levine. She has been keeping track of her own database. She travels quite a bit. This has become a big thing for her. There are people who are reaching out to her to be like, “Is there one here? Is there one there?” I felt like it might be a good thing to share with the community because all these different databases are great to know. There’s so many of us that want to have a Peloton when we travel. This is fabulous.

She wrote the article but she’s interviewing Leah Ingram who maintains a website. She writes about Peloton fairly frequently, not nonstop but it pops up a couple of times on her website. That might be worth checking out if you travel and want to know where to find one.

Yes, definitely. Thank you for correcting me.

Peloton announced that they’re partnering up with the Bronx Commons, I believe in the Bronx, helping build this new development. From what I can gather, it sounds like it’s about trying to create affordable housing in New York City, which is difficult to find in a city of that size. They’re making this huge complex of affordable housing but it will still have state of the art things.

It’s not like you’re using old stuff.

It’s the junky part of town. If you got it cheap, you get cheap stuff. They’re wanting to make sure that it’s going to be nice for people.

It looks like a Peloton is giving $100 million to invest in this. They’re going to have promotions of health. They’re going to have Peloton equipment and help build this common area up from a health perspective. That’s cool that they’re doing that. The whole project sounds neat.

Joining us once again is Angelo from MetPro. Hello.

It’s great to see you again.

It’s great to have you back. We have another great question from our Clip Out community. This one is from Andrea Van Pelt and she says, “Macros…there is so much out here and what do we need to know? How do we understand and apply it? Every time you look, one macro group tells you to ignore this and focus on the other, even those that look at the balance of macros, etc.”

Andrea you’d want to know everything that I know in a two minutes Q&A. I’m glad that I warmed up today. I understand exactly what you’re asking because that is the principal reason why we created metabolic profiling, baseline testing. There are so many thoughts out there, “No, you do low calorie and balanced macronutrients. No, you do high protein. No, you do low carb. No, you do high fat and you go ketogenic. No, you eat no animal products. You go vegetarian.” Here’s the problem. All of them are correct.

I’ve been doing this gig too long. The only way you’re wrong is if you say, “No, those don’t work,” because it’s not true. I’ve been doing this long enough to have seen every one of those strategies produce phenomenal, toned, athletic, healthy physiques. The question is, which should you do? That’s the question. It’s not a matter of which is better. The illustration is going to the mechanic and then asking the mechanic, “Which is the better tool, the screwdriver or the wrench? I hear good things about the wrench. My neighbor loves the wrench,” which is a ridiculous question. It’s whatever the job calls for. You have a finite number of levers and here they are.

Within each of these, there’s optimization but just broad strokes, grandfather categories. You can optimize your meal plan around calorie control. You can optimize your meal plan around carbohydrate control. You can adjust the volume, intensity or frequency of your exercise. You can adjust the style or modality of training that you’re doing. Just grandfather techniques, those are the categories. What I’m going to do is I’m going to speak to the person who is already attempting to lean out or lose some weight or whatever the case may be along those lines. They’re already exercising. They already have some level of optimal there. We’re going to put that on the shelf.

Do I manipulate calories or do I manipulate macronutrients? The answer is whichever you have the most leverage for. Whatever your body’s used to, do the opposite. That’s basically it. That’s not an easy question. If you ask someone where do you have the most leverage? Most people won’t know. To put it into perspective, if you’ve been low carb dieting, cutting another 10 to 15 grams of carbs out of your diet is unlikely to produce more than a marginal bump in any direction. It’s not a big enough change. If you’ve already been restricting calories, cutting another 125 calories a day is probably not going to be enough to produce a significant change. What we’re looking for is, where do we have the leverage? People tell me all the time, “My body responds well to cutting carbohydrates. Why are you making me put carbohydrates back, coach?” I explain, “Because your body responds well to cutting carbohydrates, I want to cut them again. Until we put them back, there’s nothing to cut.”

There’s not much to talk about if I can’t cut at least 100 grams in one shot. This is not even a conversation. When somebody’s going, “I’m eating 75 grams of carbs. I think I can get down to 60, coach,” I’m like, “It’s not worth the squeeze.” “I’m eating 1,400 calories a day, but I could be all right on 1,300.” Probably not. It’s not worth going to. I know there’s going to be a couple of people going, “I already eat low calories and I watched carbohydrates. That’s where by process of elimination, doing what you’re doing, you can’t lose weight right now in a healthy way because your metabolism is used to that. You have to first speed your metabolism back up, then the tools that you’ve used in the past, whether it be the screwdriver or the wrench will once again work.

Not to throw Tom under the bus, that’s right where we’re at right now. He’s done. I’m manipulating Tom’s carbohydrates. He has done carbon manipulation in the past but now he’s losing weight, essentially. There’s optimization but essentially using the same tool. Why? Because we took a breather. We took 6, 8 weeks to speed your metabolic rate to where now we can create contrast. To drive this point home where contrast is the key element, I used to train physique sports competitors, the bodybuilder, the physique, the fitness, bikini or whatever.

Every year I would get someone from the audience come up to me, “Mr. Poli, your athletes look great. What do you have them eating?” I’d give the tongue and cheek answer, “Boiled chicken, broccoli or whatever.” They would always say, “If I ate that, will I look like them?” The answer is, “Nope.” Here’s why. It’s not because of any ingredients or macronutrient that they are or aren’t eating. It’s because we spent multiple months holding their metabolic rate where I forced them to eat more like, “Oh my gosh, please.” They’re trying to tap out.

That was me in beginning. That first day I woke up. I made my breakfast and I texted him. I was like, “This can’t be right.”

TCO 210 | Losing WeightThese competitors and Tom have now spent months eating more and more. Now when we cut their calories or cut their carbohydrates or manipulate their macros, all of a sudden, there’s this big old contrast. The body is forced to adapt. That’s why puritization and cycles, and why knowing your metabolic profile can truly help you layout the breadcrumb trail for the right strategy for you. It’s not going to be the same strategy as your friend or your neighbor. Here’s the frustrating one. Even the diet that you did last year that worked, isn’t going to work exactly the same this time because your metabolism is in a constant state of flux. It’s always adapting to you, which is why we want to know where your metabolism is and then which strategy is going to be the most effective.

It is effective. I’ve lost 7 pounds in the last 30 days. I’ll put it out there. It goes down incrementally. I hadn’t even thought about it until Crystal was like, “Pull up the app and look.” I was like, “That’s way more than I thought.”

I’m like, “Yeah, so shut up, Tom.”

She says that a lot.

I was mad that day because I had been stuck for a week and a half at the same number. Thank goodness we didn’t end up in that place on the same day. The house would have exploded.

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Selena Samuela had a big announcement.

She got engaged. I love this video so much. She’s out golfing with her now fiance. It’s a windy day and she goes to make the shot and he stands behind her and he kneels down.

He gets on one knee waiting for her to turn around. She cranks the ball and it’s going forever. She’s standing there waiting for it to land and this guy over here is like, “Turn around.”

She turns around and you can tell, she’s genuinely shocked. She had no idea. It is the sweetest video. If you haven’t gotten a chance to see it. I absolutely loved it. I loved it because it’s not a showy proposal. It’s a very intimate and sweet and thoughtful proposal because they both love golfing so much. It was very personal for them. The other cool thing about this is the next day, I took her run that she did. Tom, you were in the room. It was so funny. She was giddily telling the story of getting proposed. She said it five times, “I’m getting married, you all.” It was adorable. I am so happy for her. If you haven’t had a chance yet, please send a congrats out to Selena and her new fiance.

I also thought it was interesting that People Magazine picked it up.

I didn’t post it in the show. Speaking of People Magazine, they did a whole feature on Robin’s daughter’s nursery, an entire spread. It was a whole thing.

Speaking of Robin, she has a book out.

It’s a new children’s book that she wrote. It’s called Strong Mama and you can get it on Amazon, Barnes and Noble, Books-A-Million, IndieBound. It’s all about how to be a strong mom and be a good influence for your kids and what a great timing. I’m sure that was not an accident. She is such a savvy business lady. I am very impressed by her savviness when it comes to business. She is a badass in a lot of ways. It’s out there to pre-order though. If you haven’t had a chance to do it and you’ve got kids, this would make great baby gifts, a baby shower gift or somebody who had a baby, toddler, lots of gift ideas for that one.

It got a Peloton right on the cover, a little cartoon Peloton.

I’m sure she could get permission for it, unlike some other people.

It doesn’t actually say Peloton. It could be an Echelon.

Except it’s Robin on it.

Also, Pop Sugar talked to Chelsea Jackson Roberts. She had tips for how to keep your hair in place while you’re doing yoga, which is not a concern of mine for multiple reasons.

Chelsea has a lot of hair and she does braids. She gave a list of her favorite braids and how to wear them in a way that would not get in your way while you’re trying to work out. She ought to know and she has so many creative ways to do it. I thought that was a fun, little different article. We haven’t seen one of those from Pop Sugar yet. That was the one.

Jess Sims has a new side gig.

If you guys didn’t see this, this is another cool post that was out on Instagram. Jess Sims has started being the in-arena cohort for the New York City Liberty team. That’s their WNBA basketball team. That’s pretty cool that she gets to do that. She is a huge fan of basketball. She’s talked about it many times and she used to play basketball all the time. It’s exciting to see her be able to put her loves together. That’s cool. Congrats to Jess Sims.

The Peloton blog had a nice article about the best classes to take when you’re tired.

I love that this was put together by Peloton employees.

It’s like, “It’s been a hard year. This is what we take.” It’s great because sometimes you want to work out but you’re also tired and you’re like, “What do I do?” Bookmark this and it will be a good go-to to be like, “I can still do something but it’s not going to necessarily kick my ass.”

They’re not brand new classes. There’s stuff from December of ‘19, March of 2020, January of 2020. It’s all over the place and you get to hear it from a lot of different employees across the company, which I also love hearing about.

Over on the Peloton Instagram account, they did their One Question Interview. This was for Global Running Day. Their question was, why do you run? They have all the different instructors talking about why they run.

I love that their answers varied from cookies to finding calm. They are still human like us.

Adrian took to his Instagram Stories to give everybody a new Strength Stack for the month of June.

He’s in charge of the strength stack for June. He’s got four work days, three worst days, and he’s got a whole stack lined up for everybody for all the strengths. You’ve got a lot to do. Adrian is not playing around. For those of you following along with these Strength Stacks, good luck.

Pride month is upon us. Peloton had their announcement about it.

The pride collection has dropped. Surprisingly, I didn’t buy anything from it. I know that will shock some of you. It’s like I’ve bought in the last couple of years and I’m trying to not buy as much, which Tom will be happy about. We’ll see how I end up feeling about it.

You tried to slow down your buying and then we’re going to Disney World.

It is a pretty collection. I always love all the rainbows. They’re gorgeous, and one of the cool things that they did is speak to Peloton members, employees and instructors about what pride means to them. You can find that out on Instagram. You can go to the link in their bio. You can go to the newsletter and get the link there. You can get a list of all different people, hearing what pride means to them.

While we’re on the topic of Pride month, Matty had a special run for people. Is this a new character? I don’t feel like we’ve seen this one before. I thought he’s called it Captain Ameriqueer.

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I absolutely loved it. If you’re watching our YouTube video, we are showing the video of his makeup getting put on for his run. They put a lot of work into this video and his makeup. He had a special outfit because he was a superhero. Not only is it an amazing looking run, but it has an amazing message. Matty spoke from the heart about what Pride month means to him. He got to kick off Pride month. I know that meant a lot to him. It was a very special run. If you haven’t gotten a chance to take it, please do. It was absolutely amazing. Pretty much everything Matty does is amazing.

This isn’t technically an artist collaboration, but they have a special Broadway collection and they will be focusing on RENT.

There are runs, rides, yoga and meditation. This is going to be a fun one. This is a crowd favorite, RENT. Make sure you get a chance to do this one.

I saw RENT for the first time like a year ago. It was the 20th anniversary. I love plays and musicals and Broadway. I got to tell you, I don’t get it. Pay your rent, man. They weren’t even poor kids. Half of them were middle-class kids and they were like, “We’re not paying our rent.” I’m like, “Pay your rent.”

I think this one has a nostalgia for people.

There were some good songs in it but for the most part, I was like, “I don’t get this.” Maybe if I had seen it twenty years ago. Maybe if I had seen it in my late 20s instead of my late 40s, but I’m like, “These are the most whiner bunch of bastards I’ve ever seen in my life.” I wanted to like it.

I feel like I need to redeem your taste in Broadway plays because we then saw the long one. What is the name of the long one?

They did a local production of Angels in America. That was stunning like a seven-hour play. You see it in two parts because it’s so long. It’s not very common to see it performed live anymore because it’s so long and it’s difficult to do. It was like, “We’re absolutely going to this.” It was Meredith Baxter. She was Meredith Baxter Birney and then she got divorced, now she’s Meredith Baxter. I can’t remember which of the names she had for a second but she was in it and then one of the guys from CSI was in it. It was so good.

Especially for the Midwest.

To something of that caliber in this town was quite a treat.

Finally, June 8th is Cody Rigsby’s birthday.

Everybody makes sure to stop by and tell Cody, happy birthday.

Joining us is Candy Simeone. How’s it going?

Great. How are you guys doing?

Good. When in your timeframe did you find Peloton and brought it home?

TCO 210 | Losing WeightIt was September 2020 that I ordered it. It was completely on a whim. I know you know my sister Debra Anzalone. She’s SpogaDeb. She is very much into Peloton. I was very much into laying on my couch, watching TV, like you, Tom. Especially during COVID and everything. I decided to get off the couch and move. On a whim, after listening to my sister 24 hours a day talking about Peloton, I decided I would take the plunge, laying on the couch with my phone, I ordered it.

I missed it with the back and forth. Who’s your sister? Has she been on the show?

She has.

She’s been on the show.

We’re not creating sibling rivalry.

It’s always been a little competition but she always wins. I used to like tequila, a lot of chips, dip, pizza on my couch. I was watching her over the years. I would sit there eating ice cream looking at her like, “You go, girl.” She finally got to me. The Peloton came pretty quick. It was right before the crazy ordering wave and we were lucky enough to get it within a couple of weeks. I got it set up and fell in love with it.

Was there a final tipping point where you were like, “Enough of this?” Was the couch bode funny like one of those sad horses in old-timey movies?

Not from the weight because you always sat there. Let’s be clear.

In 2020, I decided to get healthier. I felt if I didn’t do something soon, I might not see 60. I was in a pretty unhealthy lifestyle. Since January 2020, I have lost 102 pounds. I gave up alcohol. I gave up all the horrible food. I got on this Peloton and rode as much as possible.

You’re like, “I sleep standing up. I have to be burning calories 24 hours.” That’s a lot of weight in that period.

It’s been quite a journey. I spent the whole day cleaning out my closet. I have all different sizes of clothes. I’m purging and that felt good.

To be clear, she’s purging clothes. She was losing 102 pounds. That has to be a frightening moment. That’s a commitment of like, “I’m not going back,” when you start getting rid of the clothes.


You had an unthinkable loss that occurred. Can you tell us a little bit about that? How that affected you from an emotional standpoint? To my understanding, that led to your habits.

Back in 2010, I lost my son to a motorcycle accident. This was after my sister’s daughter, Tracy. She had been hit by a car in Italy. She has quadriplegia. She’s been like that since 2003. In 2003, I had two sons, Jonathan and Michael. Jonathan is the oldest and, at twenty years old, got in a motorcycle accident on his way to work. A deer ran out in front of his motorcycle and hit him from the side. He lived three days at Mass General Hospital. At the beginning of the three days, I had the people from New England donor services, which is Donate Life organ donation, came into the room and told me that he was an organ donor, which I knew but never gave it a lot of thought. He was 16.5 when he got his license.

The accident that happened to his cousin, Tracy, got him to be cognizant that life is precious. When he went to get his license, he checked the box to become an organ donor. They came into the room and he had a head injury like Tracy. It was history repeating itself in our family. I always feel like our family has been the chosen family. My oldest sister lost her husband at 28 years old. She had two baby boys. He died of a heart attack at 28 years old. This is back in 1969 when they didn’t check people’s cholesterol levels. He lived a hard, crazy, fun life and he died at an early age. That’s when our family started being, “I feel like the chosen one.”

My sister, Debbie, her daughter, got hit in Italy. When that happened, my son, Jonathan, it affected him. He became an organ donor. The accident happened in May and in June, we were going to go to Florida to visit Tracy. Jonathan, his brother, Jonathan’s girlfriend and I were going to go to visit Tracy. Jonathan had explained to his girlfriend all about Tracy and how she was bedridden and couldn’t speak. We were sitting at the kitchen table and he explained to his girlfriend how life is short. We’re all sitting around the table and he said, “If anything ever happened to me like what happened to Tracy, don’t you ever keep me alive on a machine.” It was 2 or 3 weeks before his accident that he told me what to do. He said, “Don’t let me live like Tracy.” Within a couple of weeks after that discussion was his accident. From that moment on, I ate myself through five years.

There are a lot worse things you could turn to in a moment like that.

I had a little tequila too, a couple of Margaritas.

You earned them.

Since that time, I’ve gotten involved with Donate Life, which is doing New England Donor Services. He did donate his organs. He saved two adults, a male and a female with his kidneys. He saved a baby, an infant, with his heart valve. I met the man and the woman who he saved with his kidneys and met their families. It’s an amazing experience to be with them. Now we’re like family. We came up with the mantra, “Make your mess your message.” In doing all these things for Donate Life, we’ve done amazing things. Collecting money for Donate Life for being able to carry on his legacy. I started a scholarship program. We give scholarships to students that don’t necessarily get great grades. He didn’t get great grades. He was a B or C student. He’s good with his hands, mechanical. Instead of giving it to the high A-plus students, we’re trying to give the scholarships to the kids that may not be scholastic great but they are going to be mechanics.

Everybody’s throwing money at the A-plus kids. David Letterman did something like that too. He set up a scholarship in Gary, Indiana for C students. It’s his hometown.

That’s what we’re doing because Jonathan would be like, “Don’t give it to the kids that already have all A’s. Give it to the kids that are struggling.” That’s what we like to do.

Many kids will go to college and they’ll do okay. Not everybody that’s going to college is going to get all A’s. I didn’t.

We still need help.

That’s a special and unique way to honor him, too. I like that.

It’s been helpful. It’s been years and we are still doing it.

What a fascinating flip side to the story having done the other interview. The ripple effects of that. To know a positive ripple effect in that, your tragedy prevented three other tragedies. Hopefully, you can find some solace in that. It sounds like you can.

I do. His brother, Michael got himself through. Right when this happened, he was graduating high school within 1 or 2 weeks. He got himself through graduation and then went to college and. He’s got a great job. He’s married and has his own house. His brother would be proud of him. Through this whole craziness with the organ donation, we have these green bracelets that we give out, Donate Life bracelets. I have a couple of things to show you. This is us with Steven Tyler.

Aerosmith is my favorite band.

Mine, too. Steven Tyler is my hero. We ran into him in New Hampshire and gave him a green bracelet. He wore it for over a year. We saw him on TV. He did Out on a Limb, which was a documentary. Throughout the whole documentary, he had the green bracelet on. A year later, we saw him at a concert and he had the green bracelet on. It’s crazy. We decided we’re going to start bringing these green bracelets everywhere we go. We ended up at a coffee shop down in Rhode Island that Joey Kramer owns. Joey Kramer is the drummer for Aerosmith. We gave him a green bracelet. He wore it.

A little peer pressure. “We’ll see who’s wearing it.”

Yes, and it works. These are a few more pictures of Steven with the bracelet. On the top is my son Jonathan.

I love the way you put that together. That’s amazing.

Steven was saying, “Be a hero. Donate your organs.” He’s the coolest guy on Earth. We met Ray Tabano. He was one of the original members of Aerosmith. He’s wearing a green bracelet. That’s me, 100 pounds ago.

You look like a different person.

Last but not least in Chicago. They’re wearing green bracelets.

You’re doing good.

How’d get to the band Chicago?

We went to see them. You could go behind the scenes and see the band. It was worth $100. They’re awesome, too. They have this coffee table book. Some of them are wearing the green bracelet in the book. Everywhere we look, we see all these different band members with the bracelet on. That has become my thing. Every concert I go to, I’m trying to get that green bracelet on people. I’m going to send some to you guys.

We will wear it proudly.

We’re no Aerosmith.

Not even close.

I’m more of like a Winger.

I got to get one on my favorite, Jessica King. That’s going to be one of my things, too.

That’s a toughie. Send it to the studio.

TCO 210 | Losing WeightI’m hoping to send myself to the studio when they open.

We got to be getting close with all these changes that are occurring, hopefully. That’s amazing that you have been able to do that and spread the word. If other people wanted to donate, what do they need to do? Do they go to a website? How can they help support the cause?

Yes. They can go to RegisterMe.org.

Is that a funnel that will take them to whatever is good for their region?

Yes. They can sign up. If you have a heart on your license, you’ve already signed up. You don’t have to do that. If you don’t, you can sign up there. It’s like the national registry.

I feel all of that had a lot of impact on your unhealthy behaviors. I don’t know why it wouldn’t. This went on for a long time. Was it natural healing that occurred that you were like, “I’m at a place where I can move on,” or was it truly Deb talking about Peloton that made that click for you that you were like, “I’m ready to make this change in my life?”

It was both. I had joined the gym and gone to the gym here and there. I gave up on it and wanted to keep going but I wasn’t ready. I didn’t put makeup on my face for probably five years. I went to work and was existing. I’m going through the motions. It takes a long time. Everybody grieves differently. It takes everybody a different amount of time. It took me almost seven years to clean out his bedroom and take his clothes out. It takes a long time. I went through Compassionate Friends, which is a grief group that you can join. They have a lot of people that are going through the same thing.

I met about eight women who all lost their sons, one lost a daughter. We became close friends. That helped me get through the grief as well because I didn’t feel alone. I felt I was in this group that nobody wants to be a part of. That was healing. It all came to a head. Finally, I decided, “I need to lose this weight. I need to be there for my other son.” I want him to have babies. I’m waiting for the grandchildren. I want to be able to move around, get on the floor, play with my grandchildren and be able to function.

This is prep work to become a grandma.

Getting winded going up and down a flight of stairs. I have fibromyalgia. I’m always in pain. Since I lost weight, I’m hardly ever in pain since I got on that bike, no pain.

The pain is subsiding. Was that gradual? Was it like somebody flipped a switch one day and it was gone?

It was gradual. It was as I lost weight and as I got my body moving. When I get on that bike, other than my rear end, nothing hurts. After a while, your butt doesn’t hurt as bad. It’s been a miracle. The mental part of being on the bike, riding with other people, riding with Jess King, Christine, all of them. They have such a positive influence. I can be in the worst mood and feeling sorry for myself, depressed. As long as I can get myself on there, in 30 minutes, I get off and I am a different person. It affects everything.

You mentioned that you credited Peloton with saving your life. Is that what you mean, that they’re able to change your mood? Is there more to it?

It’s a combination of everything, the physical, the mental, all of it. For me, I’m always at the bottom of the leaderboard. I don’t care as long as I’m on the leaderboard, my heart’s pumping. I look at my sister and she’s always at the top. I usually give her a couple of symbols.

They need more than the high five.

She’s a machine. There is no competition. She’s positive to me. She’s like, “I don’t care where you’re out of the leaderboard, as long as you’re on it.” She’ll always tell me that I’m doing something much better than I did the last ride. She’s good at getting me going and keeping me engaged. There’s plenty of times when I’ll say, “I don’t feel like riding. I’m tired.” She’ll say, “Get your ass on that bike.” She’s my oldest sister, so I have to say, “Yes, ma’am.”

If you’re like me, you like to remind your sister that she’s the older one constantly.

He does. He teases his sister mercilessly.

We have a brother that’s a priest and he rides a bike outside. He’s crazy, too. He rides 15 or 20 miles a day. He is 72 years old. My other sister is 70. She walks. They kick my rear. All my brother keeps saying is, “I’m never getting a Peloton because I don’t want Debbie to know what I’m doing.” He doesn’t want anything to do with the competition part of it. He’ll come home from his outside bike ride and send us a picture of his odometer. That’s as far as he goes.

That’s his leaderboard.

He’s always number one.

It’s a pretty good feeling.

If he’s on the leaderboard kicking your butt, you can’t flip off a priest.

It’s still her brother.

You’re like, “That’s the one priest I can do that to.”

That wouldn’t be the first time I flipped him off.

What I want to see is him do it back.

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He is a retired priest. He might get away with it.

He’s off the clock now.


Do you have a preferred instructor? I’m thinking you do.

Jess King. I’m in love with Jess King.

What is it about her that you like?

Her personality. She’s great. I follow her on Instagram. I follow her while she’s chasing the Ferry. She’s a lot of fun. I like her personality and her attitude. “Slap your own ass,” I love that. She brings everybody down to the same level and gets you moving.

For anybody out there who doesn’t know about Jess King’s Instagram, she does a series on Instagram. Every day on her story is called Ferry Fury. She put stories to people who are rushing to get on the Ferry. It can be pretty humorous. We talked about it but it was a long time ago.

It brings me to New York, which is nice. We can’t go there right now. It’s nice to see that. I like to go to New York at some point. I hope to go back.

I can’t wait to go back to New York. That’s going to be amazing. Is the Jess King Collective your favorite tribe? Do you have other tribes that you frequent that are your favorite?

I’ve been on the tour. I did my first PeloFondo. I don’t know why they call it a PeloFondo because there’s nothing fun about it. I almost died. It was fine. I did 50 miles. That was a lot. I signed up for 30 miles. Of course, my sister got me to continue.

She’s like, “Keep going.”

After 50 miles, I took a hot shower and passed out. She did 250.

She’s done many tours. At this point, I feel like she’s done more than anybody else that I know of.

She’s the queen. They have to tread, too. They’re working on that too.

What’s your leaderboard name?

It’s CandyGirl143.

Why the 143?

My parents always wrote 143 on the bottom of all their cards to each other. It means I love you. It’s on everything. I ended it with that. Candy Girl, that’s my name.

Do you have advice for people who are getting their bikes? Those who are starting their journey.

Get on it. Even if you get on it for five minutes a day, at least for me, the 5 became 10. Ten became 30. I don’t always do it every day. I don’t have a red dot on every day of my calendar. Some days I have to fight myself to get on it. I still go back to that couch. I get on as much as I can. It will change your life, stamina, muscles, the way you carry yourself, the way you walk, the way you feel every day. One day at a time.

Thank you so much for joining us. Before we let you go, where can people find you on social media if you would like to be found?

On Facebook, I’m Candy Simeone. On Instagram, I’m CandyLand143. If you’re looking for me on the leaderboard, I’m probably at the bottom. High five me.

TCO 210 | Losing WeightI’ll see you down there.

As long as we’re together, that’s all that matters.

Thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate it.

Thank you. It was awesome. Become organ donors if you’re not already.

I checked the box.

I did too.

I checked it when I got my driver’s license at sixteen. I was like, “If I’m ever in that, what am I going to do with them?” I was pragmatic about stuff like that. I’m like, “They’re not going to do me any good at that point. If they can do somebody else some good, how about it?”

Always think, “Who wouldn’t want a piece of this?”

That’s a great line to go out on.


Thank you.

That brings this episode to a close. What pray tell do you have in store for people?

We’re going to talk to Nicole Gonzales. We had a huge push of people who ask us to interview Nicole because she is the face behind #hardCORE on the floor. We’re going to hear all about that.

Until then, where can people find you?

People can find me on Facebook at Facebook.com/crystaldokeefe. They can find me on Twitter, Instagram, the bike and the tread @ClipOutCrystal.

You can find me on Twitter@RogerQBert or Facebook at Facebook.com/tomokeefe. Find the show online at Facebook.com/TheClipOut. While you’re there, like the page and join the group. Be sure and check out our YouTube channel at YouTube.Com/TheClipOut. That’s it for this one. Thanks for tuning in. Until next time, keep pedaling and running.

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