189: Ally Love Gets Engaged plus our interview with Robin January

Last Updated: April 30, 2023By Crystal OKeefe (#ClipOutCrystal)Tags: Peloton Bike, pulled neck muscle, The FIRM, Tonal, torn neck artery, workout injury

Are shipping delays reaching critical mass?

Weight Watchers is launching its own fitness app.

Bank Of America is liking Peloton stock…

…Jim Kramer, not so much.

Peloton is hiring studio employees. Are in-studio classes getting closer?

Matt Wilpers updates his job title on LinkedIn.

Dr. Jenn: When you’re not feeling the Peloton magic.

Ally Love is engaged.

Jenn Sherman graces the cover of New Jersey magazine 201.

PopSugar has a list of their favorite Peloton instructors.

Self magazine has fitness predictions for 2021…including Peloton.

CNET profiles the best smart gyms including Peloton and Tonal.

Vox has a lengthy article about the rise and fall of SoulCycle.

Not sure how to clean your bike or tread. Check out Logan Active Clean.

Celebrity Peloton Sightings from Ciara and Joe Jonas.

Peloton Birthdays – Hannah Frankson: January 11

All this plus our interview with Robin January!

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Ally Love Gets Engaged plus our interview with Robin January

How are you feeling?

I’m good from a health standpoint.

We should probably talk about here something that we did. We didn’t say anything while it was going on. A few people know, we talked about this on a Zoom call. We did the COVID vaccine medical trial. We’re not frontline workers but we both went in and did the vaccine thingamajig. Back in late July 2020, early August 2020 I think it was. That was really cool to be a part of, we’re very excited about that.

Because we live in the same household, we pretty quickly figured out that you got the vaccine and I got the placebo.

Which works out well though because, my job has been doing all this weird stuff.

If one of us got the real thing, I’m glad it was you.

I’m the one that’s out working in morgues and checking in people as they get their COVID tests. In fact, the people that are doing those sorts of duties where I work were actually re-classified as healthcare workers and were offered the vaccine. I didn’t get it because I already got it. I got a dose but they wouldn’t let me give it to you. I asked but they were like, “No.” Anyway, we’re excited and it’s cool to be in the middle of it seeing how they actually do it. It brings some comfort knowing how thorough they are and how serious they’re taking it. If you have your chance to get the vaccine, we encourage you to do so. It’s a lot of fun.

It’s more fun than getting tested for COVID.

That’s for sure. I’ll take the shot over the tests. I’ve had four of them now.

I’ve only had three, but I haven’t had the actual vaccine. I understand that it can make you feel a little achy, but nothing compared to sticking that thing up your nose.

For real, I take the shot over that any day of the week.

It’s important to do to keep people safe.

I did have the side effects that talked about, with one being super cool. I’m not going to lie, I had a bit of a head start. For real, I got chills and I got a fever, I got super fatigued but only for a few hours. I went to bed and woke up and I was fine. We all know too, I’m a giant puss. Don’t let that stuff scare you. If I can come out the other side of it okay, you can too. If you get a shot, get a shot. Don’t throw away your shot. Now that we’ve got all that out of the way, what pray tell do you have in store for people this week?

Mostly news articles. There’s a lot of stuff going on in the news. We’re going to talk about some delays. We’re going to talk about the stock market. We’re going to talk about a couple of celebrity sightings, some signs or things happening in the Peloton studio. Across the board, there are a lot of interesting things.

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We appreciate that. We’re not complaining.

“I found The Clip Out after becoming an avid Peloton digital app user during quarantine, and it’s become my favorite podcast. Crystal and Tom take a fan’s enthusiasm and apply it to look at all elements of Peloton including strategic business decisions, product launches, branding, instructor personalities, community engagement, sports psychology and company mission.”

He needs to write our description for the show.

I know, I’m just going to cut and paste this. It also says that they enjoy the John Mills segment. I didn’t want to skip this over.

We love those too.

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You can see any of the awesome people that you ride with every day. There’s nothing like seeing John Mills. He has many reactions to things. I love his reactions.

There’s all of that. Let’s dig in, shall we?

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Joining us again is John Mills from Run, Lift and Live. John, how’s it going?

I’m good. How is it going?

We’re good.

We have a lot of things to cover with you. We’ll see how many of these we can fit in. First thing I wanted to bring up with you guys is all these shipping delays. We’ve been hearing about these for months, so this is not any new information.

It seems to be reaching a critical mass or a tipping point.

I don’t know if you’re aware, John, but there’s a group out there, I don’t even know what it’s called. Something about people who haven’t gotten their Peloton, but it’s not that, it’s not the words, but it’s something to that effect. Apparently, it was started on October 20th and it has 6,000 people on it, and that was this morning.

We got it last night at around 11:00 St. Louis time, and it had 5,900 people. When we woke up this morning at 6:00, it was at 6,100 or 6,200 people.

I checked on it. The official name of it is Peloton Delivery Discussion Group and it has 6,100 people in it. I feel like they might’ve called some members actually.

It was higher. They’re kicking out anyone when they get their Peloton. It’s like Menudo.

This group exists to discuss exactly what it says, all the delivery issues. There’s obviously a lot of complaining inventing in the group, which is understandable people are frustrated. Also people seem to be talking about best ways to get it quicker, alternate bikes, alternate ideas for things to do if they don’t have their bike. There’s also a new Twitter handle that’s called, @OnePelotonLies that has begun. It’s screenshots of everyone tagging John Foley and complaining. That’s what we got. What are your thoughts on that, guys?

I’ve got many thoughts on this. This has been this way since March 2020, April 2020. It just got a little worse, then it calmed down a little bit, but it’s consistently been ten weeks-plus. I haven’t heard Peloton say anything publicly about it. I’m not sure I’ve seen a structured way of resolving the communication around it. I haven’t heard and seen anything like that. It’s been a consistent problem, which I was expecting something like that to happen. I’m not sure what that’s all, but the demand is so high that it really become a problem for Peloton. We’re seeing these. In my group, I see and hear them complain about it, “I didn’t get my bike. I’m waiting on my treads. They rescheduled me again and again.” Since Peloton is saying a whole lot, I know their numbers are going through the roof, and we’re in the busy season. Typically, their highest earn is January through March. For them, it isn’t really bad.

I think it’s getting there though. The noise is getting loud enough that it is going to get there.

You’re going to see there’s going to be a lost generation of people that would have been Peloton users that have decided like, “Maybe I should try something else. If I want to start my fitness journey, I don’t want to wait three to six months for a bike.” They’re running the risk of starting to lose, not members that they already have, but potential members that they would have realized, but now they won’t. I get that the influx right now is so great that maybe it’s like, “What are you going to do?” I also feel bad for them because I know it’s a combination of COVID caused, it’s a blessing and a curse. It caused a super spike in demand, but it also completely disrupted the supply chain, and that’s a bad combo if you’re trying to put a product in people’s hands. I don’t think they’re necessarily responsible for the issue, but I do think that they’re responsible for the communication on the issue.

I was looking and there have been two public comments. There was one back on Thanksgiving Day, there was a message from John Foley, and then there was another one that came out as an end of year thing from John. In both of those, he cited that they were not doing as well with the service as they felt like they should be. That’s it, that’s all there’s been. The reason I think that it’s going to become a bigger problem is because now you have these people self-segregating and they’re in an echo chamber of anger, which don’t get me wrong, they did nothing wrong. I don’t want anybody to misunderstand. I get why they are frustrated. Now, they’re self-segregated, so they’re getting each other riled up and riled up. That number is growing so fast that I am concerned. Peloton needs to do something. They need to get loud. I don’t know what the answer is, but they need to do something.

That’s what I’ve been waiting for. Where’s that threshold where Peloton finally says, “We’ve got to do something big.” I don’t know if this group, with the people complaining, is really enough yet. That sounds like even the people in that group right there, there’s still people wanting a Peloton. They’re just complaining that they haven’t got their order yet.

There is a lot of that. There are also people that are legit, “Why are you waiting around? Here’s all your alternatives.” They’re selling them on other bikes. It’s happening. I don’t mean that everybody in that group hates Peloton. I don’t mean that everybody in that group is not going to get a Peloton, but they are frustrated. Every day, there’s this timeline. I don’t know where that point is, where Peloton is like, “Crap.” I feel like we’re getting closer.

I started feeling that too. As we got later into December, I started thinking, “This is where we go no matter.” I hear about that whenever Peloton is mentioned. You were showing the image of where Peloton mentioned the cool-down. Underneath that post, you see a bunch of people going, “What about my order?”

It’s not a good look for Peloton.

It made me think that do they have something that they’re going, “We just got to get to this date, we’re about there?” I keep thinking if they’re doing that, if they’re looking at some date, “It’s coming, we’re almost there,” is that the Mac tonic thing? Isn’t the Mac Tonic facility supposed to already be open?

I hear you. It would not surprise me if that was the case that Peloton is like, “We just need to make it to X.” If that’s the case, wouldn’t it be good to tell people? I don’t know, but they’ve done things like that before. They’ve kept their mouth shut and they’ve weathered the storm. I think that may not be the approach to take on this one. I’m alarmed.

In the middle of all that, you would get that Weight Watchers is launching their own digital coaching app. Everybody’s getting into the game.

They’re coming out of the woodwork everywhere. I think that’s another concern with all this because it’s like they have all these competitors. You’ve pointed out many times, John, that there are other competitors that are using Peloton’s long lead time as a selling point. What are your thoughts on this Weight Watchers thing?

Jacque Cincotta pointed this out in my group. Ultimately, you know that they’re likely looking at Noom. They’re saying, “Here’s this other health and wellness app, they’re suggesting different exercise programs as a part of their programs.” My assumption is this is Weight Watchers, and they said in 2018 that they’re trying to get away from losing weight. It’s more about health and wellness. This looks like another component to that, to get closer to that, because now they have this competitor in Noom, they’re going, “We need to hurry up, so let’s offer coaching that’s more geared towards health and wellness.” I think that’s the ultimate reasoning. What makes it interesting is as a part of that, they’re offering their own content. I don’t think Noom does that. I think they suggest like they’ll take this NordicTrack class. They are not offering in actual their own content. This makes you go, “Other than allowing users that have already signed up for our Weight Watchers program to use those classes, how else are they going to offer those classes? Will they have them just for usage in an app for someone who doesn’t necessarily want the Weight Watchers membership? It becomes a question like, “What are they going to do with that?” That’s where I think it would then be more competitive against like a Peloton Digital.

They do a lot of celebrity endorsements. I wonder if you’ll start to see as part of the endorsements, the celebrities create content for their app. Oprah was on Weight Watchers for a while, Jennifer Hudson. There have been some big names over the years that have been a part of that world.

It’s really interesting. I think the combination of you’re taking the idea of health and wellness and the psychology of it, and then bringing it together with actual physical fitness content. That idea is interesting. I don’t know if it’s really competitive against a pure play digital fitness platform like Peloton.

I’ve got a feeling it isn’t. I’m not saying they won’t have some people go to that. I’m not saying that Weight Watchers won’t be successful. Honestly, I think that they will be successful. I don’t think that you’re pulling away the same people. One reason I don’t think that is because you know how there are some brands that are left over from your mom, like this is one for me. Weight Watchers is like my mom’s weight loss thing, and there’s nothing wrong with that but it doesn’t feel modern. I think they’re going to need to continue to refresh that to pull people away. When I think technology and fitness, Weight Watchers is not at the top of my list. I also think that people like my mom would never use Peloton because they don’t like technology. There’s a place for both. That’s not necessarily a bad thing. I don’t see a lot of overlap.

I don’t know that any of these things are necessarily direct competitors, but there’s just a lot of nibbling around the edges that over time adds up.

We know Peloton started talking health and wellness as a part of their content.

We suspect there’s nutrition.

I guess they’re moving towards each other, but I don’t know that it’s close to them now to call them competitors. By the way, back in ‘89, I was buying black suede cologne from Avon.

I’m not hating, I don’t hate anybody. I was just saying that’s a different generation, like Tupperware. I love Tupperware, but that’s my mom’s.

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I did go to a few Tupperware parties with my mother in the ‘70s.

I still have leftover Tupperware from my mom that she’s passed over to me. It was good stuff. You can’t complain.

It’s good stuff. It does last.

I hope I haven’t told that Avon cologne story, I might get some messages on that.

I bet you will.

Moving along, apparently Bank of America thinks Peloton is a thematic stock favorite. I’m going to be perfectly transparent. I have no idea what I just said.

Honestly, those feel like words.

You translate that into people.

They like Peloton. That’s what I heard.

They have lists of stocks that are around a particular theme. Folks that are looking to invest, if that aligns to who they are and their interests, then that theme might be interesting to them. It sounds like they’ve added Peloton into the Millennial, Gen Z, their list of stocks that fall into that theme.

That actually is pretty important then because Peloton has been saying for a while that younger generation is their fastest growing customer. I do think that is very notable then.

Whether or not, I don’t know how much that’s beneficial to Peloton. My assumption is that it will be. You go in and you want to invest. You’re not quite sure what to invest in. They tell you about these thematic lists and you go, “That’s me, that makes sense. I’ll go in with that.” I’m assuming it would be helpful, but I don’t know how much.

It’s like the backend.

I just read that and was like, “I have no idea what that means. I don’t even know that they collected stocks like that.” That’s how I organize my comics.

That story was from Justin Post. It tends to be pretty complimentary to Peloton. He has a positive outlook on where they’re going. Ultimately, I think it was probably a good thing.

We have the flip side of that next.

Which is Jim Cramer, who’s never wrong. He’s like the weatherman of stocks. It doesn’t matter how wrong he is, he gets to keep working.

He is reactionary when he’s supposed to be forward-looking. He says back in October or November that we had now a vaccine that was about to be approved. At that time, I think Peloton was somewhere around 139 and I didn’t hear anything from Cramer until Peloton dropped down to around 111, 110. Cramer was like, “You’ve got to get rid of these stay-at-homes including Peloton because it’s over.” Then Peloton dropped slightly below 100, but then ran back up to 160. As it was going back up, Cramer is going, “Peloton is a sound company. You have to stick with a sound company.”

He’s banking on the fact that people don’t have DVRs.

It goes up to 165 or whatever, and he still hadn’t said anything, and now it’s dropped down to 140s. I hear this, “I don’t know about these stay-at-homes now.” You’re right, it sounded like the weatherman in San Diego.

I’ve heard stories of people who’ve gotten the vaccine, gone home and wheeled their Peloton out for the trash. They were like, “No more. I am cured of the COVID,” said no one ever.

I’m glad that that’s how you feel about it. I think that he is not accurate, I said nicely.

It’s very reactionary the way it feels like, the timing. This will be the second time.

He has his own little pattern. Maybe we should start doing reports on how he reports.

Or buying against him and use him as a way to go the other way.

By the time he speaks about it, it’s already happened.

Thank you very much for joining us again, John. Before we go, remind everybody where they can find you.

They can find me on Facebook in my Run, Lift and Live group or page. They can find me on Instagram, @RunLiftAndLive or at RunLiftAndLive.com.

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Peloton Twitter extraordinaire, I don’t know what else to call them, we need a better thing for Bob Treemore. Bob Treemore tweeted that there are some signs that maybe studio classes might be in our not-too-distant future.

I was super excited to see this tweet because I have thoughts. He tweeted this because he found a job listing. He keeps a close eye on those. He found a job listing for a studio person to help members with bikes before classes. Why would you need that if you’re not doing virtual classes? It was for the New York City studio in case anyone is wondering. I don’t mean the UK studio. I think this is timely because it’s been on my mind lately as we are now in 2021, will or will we not have Homecoming? We certainly can’t have it if the studio isn’t open.

That seems like a fair assumption.

I’m hopeful that this is real and it’s soon, but I also I don’t know because the vaccine thing is not happening as quickly as everybody would like. I feel like that’s probably going to be a big key here. I don’t know, we’ll see.

Watch this space. Speaking of little interesting tidbits we found on the internet. Matt Wilpers updated his LinkedIn account.

He has a new position listed as Instructor and Training Specialist at Peloton Interactive. That was via Terry Shelley who brought that up to me.

Any idea what was it before and what this change would be indicative of?

It mentioned some kind of instructor before. It did not mention Training Specialist. That’s the big question here. What exactly is he training for? We know that Cody is the big bike trainer.

Maybe he’s trained in that guy who’s going to help people with the bikes?

I don’t think so. Also, the other interesting thing is that I don’t think that he would be training for the Tread, I could be wrong, but I’ve always had the impression that fell under like Rebecca and Maddie for the Tread side. What exactly is he training for? Maybe he’s training for a Power Zone, maybe on the bike or maybe because it’s specific because he did train Olivia and Christine and Dennis. That’s one theory. I don’t have another theory besides that. That’s where we are.

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Welcome back to the show, Dr. Jenn Mann, a licensed marriage, family and child therapist, sports psychology consultant. You may know her from VH1’s Couples Therapy with Dr. Jenn or VH1’s Family Therapy with Dr. Jenn or her long-running radio show, The Dr. Jenn Show. She’s written four best-selling books including The Relationship Fix: Dr. Jenn’s Six-Step Guide to Improving Communication, Connection and Intimacy. Dr. Jenn, hi.

Hi.

For the last several weeks, we’ve had our audience come up with questions for you that they’ve been dying to ask. This one I think speaks to a lot of people who are brand new to Peloton. What happens if you’re not feeling the Peloton magic? By that, my interpretation of this person’s question is everybody talks about how much they love Peloton. They can’t wait to take another class. They can’t wait to get back on their bike. What if you’re the person who have to force yourself to take another class, like you’re just not feeling it? What do you do then?

This is a great question because I think that most beginners feel this. It’s unusual for someone to hop on the bike and from moment one and be like, “This is the most amazing experience. I can’t wait to do it again.” I read a very interesting study that looked at people who maintain longstanding exercise commitments who are regular exercisers. What they found was that the people who become these habitual long-term exercisers did it because when asked, “What keeps you motivated? Why you do it?” they were very connected to the endorphins they felt, how good they felt when it was done, the improvements that they saw in their strength, their cardio, how great they felt that there was an association with the end game. The problem is that in the beginning when you first start Peloton or any exercise regimen, you’re not going to feel that. You’re going to feel sore, it’s going to be hard. You might feel discouraged or you’re going to feel like you’re weak. You’re going to feel like you can’t do it. Oftentimes, it’s going to be a discouraging experience in the beginning.

What you have to do is build on that. It’s almost like at the beginning of your exercise experience, it’s almost like you have to think of it as taking your medicine. I know that there are times even now, and I think I haven’t checked lately, I had to get like a 74-80 week streak or whatever it is. I love going back because I do have that positive association, yet there are still times where I’m like, “I don’t feel like getting on my Tread. I don’t feel like running today.” What I always tell myself is, “How do I want to feel at the end?” That’s what gets me started, because I know if I start, I’m not going to stop. I’m going to see it all the way through. Oftentimes, it’s starting that’s hardest thing.

I’m also a big fan of doing things that set you up to succeed. I put out my Peloton wear, and you know, Crystal personally how obsessed I am with my Peloton wear. My clients have even started saying like, “You now wear Peloton when you do therapy.” “Yes, I am and it’s really comfortable.” I point out my clothes the night before. I know whether I’m doing a run or a spin class, which require different bras. I put it out in advance, which means that I’m not going to stand there because I can stand there for half hour debating on what, and then all of a sudden like, “I’m out of time. I’ve got clients. I can’t do that.” I start time for myself. That gives me some leeway if I’m like, “There are more dishes to do in the kitchen than I thought before I get to that workout.”

I try to build in so that I am most set up to succeed. Expect to not feel the magic. Expect to feel pretty discouraged at the beginning. You’ve heard me talk about this a lot, make small manageable goals. Don’t overdo it. The worst thing you can do in terms of killing the Peloton magic is doing too much, too soon, too fast, too hard. Better you do a 10-minute class or a 20-minute class. Don’t do an hour class or a 45-minute class if you’re just starting. You may not even want to do a 30-minute class. Work up to that and build on what you’ve done. What you want to do is have that first experience of, “I did it,” because that’s what gets you sucked in.

I have a girlfriend in DC who has been quarantined as well. She called me up like, “I need some girlfriend time.” Now once a week, we do our Peloton workout. We do our floor work together via FaceTime. She’s someone who has not exercised her whole life. She was starting early as she was starting with me. I said, “Try doing Emma’s Crush Your Core. Do the four-week Crush Your Core.” She did it. She was like, “I didn’t think I’d be able to do it, but now I really like doing Core class.” I was like, “That’s great. Do ten minutes of Core with me on Thursdays.” She said, “I don’t know if I can make it ten minutes.” I was like, “Let’s try it.” We did it, then now she’s like, “I can do ten-minute classes.” Now, she feels great. Now, we’ve been working out together for a few months and she’s kicking ass. She’s lost 10 pounds and she feels strong. Now, she’s working out on her own. She’s built on her successes. The only way to feel the Peloton magic is to tolerate it not being an amazing, wonderful experience in the beginning, set small manageable goals and build on them and trust the process.

That’s absolutely perfect, good advice.

Thank you so much for all that. Until next time, where can people find you?

People can find me on social media, @DrJennMann.

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Ally Love is getting hitched.

It’s official. She is engaged to Andrew. They are being dubbed the A Team. That’s their new name. They were at some tropical location when he proposed. I know there were fireworks. That’s all I got.

The euphemism, there were literally fireworks in the Instagram post.

People Magazine reported on it. They were in page six.

It is fascinating to have watched the evolution of the instructors as celebrities. We’ve been doing this for so long, originally it was a big deal when Peloton even got mentioned in the news, and now the instructors are flat out celebrities, which we had been predicting from the beginning that they’re going to become celebrities. She’s in People Magazine.

This would not have been mentioned in People Magazine when we started this podcast. That’s pretty cool to see the instructors grow up like that.

They have celebrity couple nicknames. We have a celebrity couple nickname.

What is it?

Trystal. We have that.

I didn’t know we were called that. That’s your friend, Bonnie, who named us that. A member of the media technically called us that.

She used to work in radio with me, and she coined Trystal, which I think on iTunes, when we uploaded the episode, we did it under the name Trystal.

I know when we did our little thing when we had your guys here for Mystery Science Theater, and we did that production, we put it under Trystal Productions.

There’s our celebrity couple nickname.

We’re on the same level as Ally Love.

Jenn Sherman was featured on the cover of 201.

Apparently, it is the area code in New Jersey. Everyone was like, “I live in the 201.” I didn’t know that was a thing. I know they called it that.

Sometimes, people around call us 314, people around here, nowhere else cares.

I didn’t know. I’m not offended by it or anything but regardless, she made the cover of a magazine.

She’s not just in it. She’s on the cover. That’s pretty spiffy. Popsugar had an article about Nine Peloton Instructors You Should Take Classes From in 2021.

This is an interesting list because most of these instructors are what I consider the new instructors. I consider anybody that’s not in the original thirteen, a new instructor. For people who are new to Peloton, they’re all new to you. I get that. About a few years ago, that’s when the Tread got launched and they added on a bunch of Tread instructors, and since then they’ve added on cycling instructors, so a lot of these are new. There’s a couple like Robin that are in there, but most of them are on the newer side. I thought it was interesting.

You make a good point that there’s such an influx of people to Peloton that they have no frame of reference for who’s new and who’s “old.”

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I should make a timeline and put it on our website. I don’t know how to do that, so if anybody knows how to make a timeline and put it on a website, let me know. That sounds like too much work.

It does sound like work and you just said, I don’t have to do anything else, so that falls to you. Self magazine had an article, Fitness Changed Big in 2020. Here’s What it Means For Us Going Forward.

They had a bunch of stuff that’s going to happen. It’s a bunch of predictions, but I thought it was interesting. I used to read Self Magazine back when I was going to get in shape the first time. I love Self Magazine. I think it’s cool to see them in Peloton, just a little bit of a flashback for me. They basically are saying the big one is digital and online fitness are going to stick around. I don’t think that shocks any of us, but I love seeing it.

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CNET had an article about the best smart-home gym workouts of 2021. Peloton is included, but it also has Mirror and Tempo and more.

They’re also non-included, like the best budget exercise bike was Echelon. The best full-featured exercise bike was Peloton. I love that we’re wired into all these different companies. The best boxing gear was FightCamp. Mirror is on here. I do not see anything about Tonal in this one.

It seems like a missed opportunity. Anybody is doing what Tonal is doing, and it’s a pretty cool machine.

They put tempo in here. Tonal is here. I probably just scrolled through too fast. That makes me feel better because I’m really glad they’re in here. I feel like personally that Tonal is the best machine out there for resistance weightlifting. I think Tempo is fine for people who like free weights. It’s great, it just doesn’t have all the AI built into Tonal, so that’s why I feel strongly about it.

While we’re talking about competitors, Vox.com had an article that neither of us have admittedly had a chance to read yet about SoulCycle. It sounds interesting though, How SoulCycle Lost Its Soul.

My understanding of this article based on what people have sent to me is it goes through the entire timeline of the meltdown that has been SoulCycle. One person told me that it seems like watching high school play out. We’ve talked about that before that like these guys, it seems like they had a lot of success go to their head and they didn’t have somebody to keep them in check. It makes sense to me.

I don’t know what this is, but there’s a picture from the article and it’s a sticky note with a quote attributed to Janet Fitzgerald, “If someone asks you if you are back on cocaine or if you have an eating disorder, you’d know you’ve hit your goal weight.”

That’s bad.

I’m looking forward to reading that article.

We might have to touch base on this one again.

We might have to stop recording just so we can read this article.

What else it reminds me is not only high school, but also bad reality television, the kind that’s like a train wreck and you cannot look away. That’s what that article looked like. I can’t wait to read it.

Shape.com had an article about The Best Peloton Bike Alternatives On Amazon, According to the Reviews.

I don’t know how I feel about this. I will say that there are a lot of good bikes out there that aren’t Peloton, but they don’t necessarily need to be. There are a lot of really good ones. I’ve never even heard of this one. A lot of these bikes look well-built. This Pooboo one looks well-built. It has a lot of adjustments and stuff on it. This one too Yosuda. That one also appears to be a really good sturdy bike. Vigbody, I feel like I’ve heard of this one. That one doesn’t look as comfortable to me. Best quality, I love seeing this, Sunny. I’ve talked about this before, Sunny is a great bike for people. It is a very inexpensive bike, it’s affordable and it’s a very well-made bike.

Circling back around on how we opened the show. A lot of people are probably looking for advice like this if they’re having trouble getting a Peloton delivered. They’re going to eventually go elsewhere.

It’s sad but true.

We started talking about Logan Active Clean, which we’ve seen a lot of people actually are starting to buy it already. You posted a thing on YouTube and Facebook about it and in Instagram, and people were interacting. People got to see it in action. If you want to see that, you can go to our YouTube channel or Facebook page to see what it looks like and you can walk in through and show how easy it is to spray all over your damn machine and you don’t got to worry about it hurting a thing.

It’s really amazing. It’s an alcohol-free product. As it cleans, it’s keeping your surfaces clean, but it’s not destroying the surfaces. Obviously, we pay a lot of money for these wonderful machines that we have, so it’s important that they last. You can use alcohol-based products on your screen and you can probably get away with that for a few times, but you’re not going to be able to do that over and over again without seeing damage.

Over time, it’s going to take a toll.

I like these products because they’re non-toxic, alcohol-free, the fragrance is natural. It’s plant-derived. This is something we did not mention before, they’re made right here in the USA. The different products, just a quick breakdown, there’s the yoga mat cleaner. It also cleans all surfaces. They also have an air mist and a hand sanitizer. Also, the hand sanitizer is alcohol-free. They have two different kinds of towels. One is a 10×10 and one is a 20×14. The 10×10 is great to like clean with, and the larger one you can actually use while you’re working out, which is fabulous.

They’re not $40 towels, they’re more affordably priced. They’re the cool microfiber kinds so they’re softer.

They soak up a ton of water. They’re super soft. They’re comfortable. They don’t rip up your face when you pat it dry. Also they don’t rip up your equipment when you pat it dry.

Also, if you’re looking for another reason if you’re not sold yet, you can also use this to clean your car, because many cars have the touchscreens on it now, and you want to clean the dashboard but you don’t want to damage the screen, you can take a bottle of this out to your car and wipe it right down. You are good to go. It will make your car smell like a fancy pants spa.

Tom is super picky and even he likes the scent of these products. That is a big deal right there. That’s a win.

It’s not easy to do. It does not smell like chicken nuggets.

There’s a lot of eucalyptus and spearmint and things like that in the different products.

It smells really clean.

It does but not like chemical clean.

It’s not like detergent or bleach, but like fresh. If you want to find out more, you can go to their website, LoganActiveClean.com, or you can follow them on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook, @LoganActiveClean. If you order now, use the promo code, ClipOut10, and you’ll receive 10% off your order. Any order over $59 in the 48 contiguous states, you will get free shipping.

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I’m going to show my age here, but apparently Ciara has a Peloton.

I don’t actually know either. I think she’s a music artist, I’m pretty sure. I know we should know. I’m embarrassed that we don’t. I’m pretty sure she’s pop.

She has Peloton and I’m sure that will excite lots of people.

She was talking about her weight loss in general and mentioned Peloton. She’s mentioned it more than once on her social media, so that’s pretty cool.

I think that’ll probably be the next phase of Peloton in pop culture is when a rapper start name-dropping in songs.

Wait, there’s more.

While we’re talking about celebrities and their Peloton, we found another one, Joe Jonas.

The hesitation was because he was trying to get the image to come up, not because he didn’t know, even he knows this one.

I have heard of the Jonas brothers. He rides a Peloton bike and he posted pictures of it on the Gram, as the kids call. He is trying to look tough and he’s not fooling anybody because he’s Joe Jonas.

Apparently, he likes to ride with Kendall.

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Peloton birthdays, Hannah Frankson has a birthday on January 11.

Happy birthday, Hannah. Is that our first time giving a UK instructor a birthday? Some of the other ones weren’t on the list.

They weren’t on the list, so we had to back the way up.

It’s the first time we’ve given Hannah a happy birthday. I know that because she’s a new one.

Her birthday is on January 11th, which is also my ex-wife’s birthday, but don’t hold that against Hannah Frankson. Wish her a happy birthday.

You should do that.

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Joining us is Robin January. Robin, how is it going?

I’m good. How are you guys doing?

We’re good. Robin, how did you originally find Peloton?

I have been an at-home exerciser for years. Going back to The FIRM, I heard you talk about before. I was a FIRM fanatic. I even visited their studio in South Carolina. I had a personal training session with one of them. I took classes.

What is The FIRM? I’m a middle-aged guy. For me, The FIRM is a supergroup with Jimmy Page and Paul Rodgers.

The steps I have out there in my workout area, the purple and the blue one that’s from The FIRM. It was a workout video from back in the day. They did a great job of mixing strength and cardio. Right then, they were the only ones at home.

They send you these steps to step up on?

No. They also had a bar. It was like your little weights and you had the bar.

When I got my Tonal, I sold one of my FIRM steps and that little bar that you’re talking about. I posted on Facebook that I’m coming up to the current technology age. I’m getting rid of the VHS era workout equipment.

I don’t know what happened to the bar. It got lost in one of the mini moves but I still have those steps because whenever I do work out in the Tonal and sometimes, they have you do steps up on the bench. My knees are a little wobbly and it hurts my knees. I use those steps still.

I still have one set and I used them too. I thought you would appreciate that.

When you listed them on Facebook, I’m just curious was somebody like, “These are a collector item or I still do that. I’ve been looking for these,” or were they like, “All exercise is as good as anything?”

It was the latter. I posted them for free. We’re still in the time of COVID but it was in May 2020. We were thick into COVID quarantine. One person snags that up.

Let me tell you something about that bar, Tom. The bar had three pieces to it. The ends came off so you could use them as hand weights.

I didn’t know if there was still a cult. Even though it might have died down, there are still diehard people that still do it and want it. Things get hard to find.

I’m going to have to look that up and see now that we’ve had a conversation again about The FIRM.

You’d have to find a VHS recorder to even do some of those classes.

You would but I didn’t know if they still exist in some form or fashion. They kept trying to come out with new things for a while. I didn’t know if they still exist but they’re doing something different these days. I have no idea.

I’m a prime target market for Peloton. Other than the fact that I work out in an unfinished basement, that doubles as my laundry room. I was primed for the taking. I bought a nice spin bike in 2011, thinking that I would just do my own thing on it after we had our last child. It sat there and collected dust for a few years. I found a gym out of California that sold virtual memberships. It was a boutique fitness studio. They offered indoor cycling and combo classes like cycling and sculpt, the Peloton bootcamp. They had everything from TRX to yoga. I was all in. Through that gym, I found a group of members who were all over the world. We have this OG Facebook group. I’m still friends with these 30 or 40 people in this Facebook group but we do a variety of at-home workouts. When Peloton first released their iOS app, it was free. Not for two weeks, not for three months, it was free for a considerable amount of time. You might know, Crystal, how long.

It’s free. I don’t think you had to do anything but it was much more limited in scope than it is now. You couldn’t do much with it. I didn’t have the app because we all know that Android took a while to come out with the app. I don’t think there was a whole lot going on with the Apple app. You could certainly use it but you couldn’t do all the cool things you can do with it now. It didn’t look as pretty back then.

You can take an on-demand class or a live class and that was about it. Someone in this Facebook group that I was in said, “Peloton has released the app. If you’re interested to see what it’s all about, download it and try it.” I did. It seemed like it was geared towards people who had the bike because the classes were even named things like Metrics. I tried the class. It didn’t work for me, I deleted the app and thought that was it.

In 2017, another one of my friends from this group started posting these heart rate graphs where she was in a Heart Rate Zone from 70% to 79% for an entire class. When I first saw it, I thought she must be walking on a treadmill because I had two speeds for working out. I was either zero doing restorative yoga or 100 doing spin, sculpt, TRX. There was no in-between for me. I was working out way too hard six days a week. The more she posted, we finally started asking what in the world she was doing. She was doing Peloton classes.

In late 2017, the last week of December, I downloaded the app again to try it. I took a Heart Rate Zone endurance class with Christine. That was all she wrote. I was all-in, immediately did her three months training plan for Heart Rate Zone training. The rest is history. It’s not love at first sight. I wish I knew what class I did back in 2015 or 2016. It would be like if a brand-new person with a non-Peloton bike tried Kendall’s movie-themed rides.

You wouldn’t have any kind of context about why they’re doing anything they’re doing.

You wouldn’t get this that’s more of a one-off gimmicky, silly thing, as opposed to you’d think like, “They’re all like this. That’s a bit much. I don’t need classes by Rip Torn.” I find it interesting that people complain a lot about Peloton making many changes, tweaks and fixes. I also can’t help but wonder if maybe that’s part of it. If maybe some of the changes they made in the interim made it more appealing to you. When people complained about that, maybe this is the unintended as far as we know, not unintended from Peloton standpoint, maybe they’re seeing metrics that can show them like, “People do 1 or 2 of these and then they’re out if they’re brand new and maybe we adjust.” They did some deep data mining over there.

It’s a blast from the past to hear you say that they used to have classes labeled as Metrics. I had completely forgotten about that. That was back in the day they had those Metrics classes.

I still don’t know what they are. I don’t think I’ve done one.

It means that it’s based on your cadence and how fast you’re going and your resistance. It was focused on that as opposed to a groove ride where you’re focused on the beat of the music. You were trying to hit certain goals as opposed to enjoying the ride.

Speaking of blasts from the past, remember when we were talking about The FIRM.

That lady was one of the teachers back then too, Alison Davis. She went by Allie back then.

On their official website, there’s some sort of weird coding. Anything that’s supposed to be an apostrophe is a question mark. That’s the attention to detail that they’re exhibiting over there.

Heart Rate Zone training is a great entry point for app riders in particular because you don’t need a way to gauge resistance. You can focus on cadence and focus on heart rate. If you don’t have a heart rate monitor, you can go through perceived exertion. If you’re an app rider and you need to start to understand Peloton, it’s a great way to train but you better do it before they all get purged.

Tom and I were having a whole conversation about the new feature that’s going to be coming out for class stacking and why that’s so important to the core group of Peloton riders who have been around for a long time. That hits on it. When Peloton was focused on heart rate training, everybody talked about the fact that longer classes at a lower intensity were how you train to be prepared for a 100-mile ride or to go out and do bigger sports activities that lasted for a long-time like endurance. It was also great for fat burning. Now that a lot of those classes are being purged, being able to still stack classes is going to be a key feature for people, especially in conjunction with that skip intro button. That is excellent advice for new people who are checking out Peloton through the app to try Heart Rate Zone. That’s smart.

I would jump into Power Zone immediately after because that was a three-month program. That’s when I decided I needed the actual bike because I could measure watts on my bike. I hand calculated my zones and wrote them on a piece of paper. I had to look in four different places, the paper for my zones, my watch from my heart, the monitor for cadence and then a TV to see the class. It was the most stressful class. I was all over the place trying to keep up. That’s when I decided, “I’ve got to get the bike.”

Is Power Zone training what got you to get the actual bike?

Yes. I wanted to find a good used bike and that took a few months. Even back in 2018, they were hard to find but I found one in Missouri.

Where do you live?

I’m in Northwest Arkansas. When we got our spring soccer schedule, I put out alerts in all those areas to see if there’s something available. I found one in Missouri, which ironically was the day that my life changed forever with the day I got that bike. Not for, “My life changed, I got this great bike.” That’s when my health scare happened.

I didn’t realize that was the same day. Tell us what happened with your health scare. That’s crazy that it was the same day.

We were out of town at a soccer tournament. It was early in the morning. I was working out at the hotel gym. It was my birthday. That’s why I remember the date. I suffered an injury during a workout. I thought I had the worst torn muscle. I experienced such an intense searing instantaneous pain during a set of bicycle crunches. My first reaction was, “I’ve got to finish this workout. I’ve got to get onto the next set of exercises.” I realized within a few seconds that there was something wrong. I almost passed out. I couldn’t keep my balance. I could barely walk. I had to focus on staying upright.

I got up to the hotel room. I laid down. Everything subsided. We went off and bought the used Peloton that I was so dead set on getting. We took it home the next day. I helped my husband carry it up the stairs. I took a twenty-minute ride because I hadn’t worked out that day. I got off and I felt horrible. The next day, I passed out at work and luckily someone was in the office with me. I remember coming to with her taking my pulse. She’s a retired nurse. I ended up going to the ER. I went to a small specialty like sports-type ER because I assumed it was a sports injury.

They told me it was a pulled muscle. I also had alarmingly high blood pressure. They referred me to my regular family doctor. Fast forward, I had all these crazy symptoms for a month. I finally got in to see a neurologist. I was diagnosed with a torn vertebral artery. That’s an artery that runs through your cervical spine and it carries oxygenated blood to the back of your brain. The back of your brain controls the heart and lungs. You need that blood supply to live. When I was diagnosed, they told me that we all have two arteries, one on each side. They both go up to our neck and carry blood. If something happens to one, the other one takes up the slack.

The other one in my case, I was born with it not connecting to my brain. My life depends on this artery that’s now damaged. When you tear the artery, it tears the inside of it and your body does what it’s supposed to do. It starts healing that spot by clotting as if you had a cut on your skin. Because of the blood flow, those clots break off and those clots cause strokes. Every time I had double vision, I passed out or I had all these crazy random symptoms, those were small strokes. We didn’t know it because they present very differently than what we think of as a stroke that affects one side of your body.

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How long had that been going on before you realized it?

That went on for a month. I was in and out of the doctor’s office. We ran test after test, everything checked out. It wasn’t until I saw a neurologist who knew what he was looking for. He ordered the right test. When you have an afternoon appointment for the results but you get a call 1.5 hours before telling you that you need to come in immediately, you know something is wrong.

I want to hear the rest of it. I had a question along the way. How do you tear something like that? It seems like it’s enclosed.

I had the right amount of force and the right type of angle that caused it. There are a lot of people who have underlying conditions like genetic conditions or connective tissue disorders. I haven’t been evaluated for those. It is more common in some people. Every time I went, after they diagnosed me, I kept being asked if I used drugs. I was like, “Why are they asking me?” Certain drugs can weaken your artery walls and can cause these dissections.

What was the official diagnosis? Were they like, “You’ve been having mini-strokes?” Were they like, “This is a thing called so and so. Here’s what you do?”

They told me I had suffered a vertebral artery dissection that caused mini-strokes. I had also developed a brain aneurysm. Where that artery tore, it weakened the outside lining. It allowed it to balloon out into an aneurysm. That aneurysm was sitting at the base of my brain. At that time, that was a big concern for either rupture or a massive stroke because blood can also pool inside an aneurysm, clot, and break off and that’s it. They sent me straight from that neurologist’s office to the ER. They told me, “You’re going to meet with the stroke team. You’re going to talk about what your next steps are.” I go into the ER thinking, “I’m going to sit down and talk to some doctors about what we do next.”

Instead, they have a wheelchair waiting for me and they wheeled me right back, hooked me up to IVs, and do a full neuro assessment. They’re to determine if they’re going to keep me in the hospital or what the plan is. I was like, “What is happening?” Their plan for me was to let me see if I could heal on my own. They put me on several medications. Ideally, you want these dissections to heal on their own because if you go in there and intervene, it can cause more damage. To heal on your own, you have to stop all activity.

Not just don’t exercise, it was don’t do chores. Don’t go outside and get too hot. I couldn’t do anything that would raise my heart rate or my blood pressure. I was allowed to go to work for four hours a day, sit at a desk, come home and get into bed. At the time, our boys were 12 and 6. We have twin boys and our younger son. It was completely life-changing because life stops. That was what my life was like for three months, no activity. They rechecked me three months later and we were hoping for signs of healing but there were no signs of healing. That’s when they said, “We’ve got to go in and do a surgery to see if we can address the aneurysm.”

Because it didn’t heal itself, at any time, had you done something, you could have knocked off a piece of that blood clot. How terrifying.

What were those three months like? Was that something that was constantly on your mind? Could you put that aside for some stretches of time? Were you constantly worried like at any moment the other shoe could drop?

You feel like you have a ticking time bomb in your head and you don’t know if you’re going to wake up in the morning. You have days like that. It was three months of a lot of anxiety. I have a strong faith and we had a wonderful support system. The day before I was diagnosed, my mom moved in with us because she was renovating her house. She took over as mom. When I was in bed, she was the one keeping the house running. It all worked out. That was a tough three months.

Especially because you couldn’t do anything physically to process that anxiety.

The way I handle things is to get on the bike. That’s a therapy for me. When the doctor said, “Be a couch potato but don’t gain a lot of weight because if you gain a lot of weight that puts stress on the artery.” At some point, they told me I could slowly walk. I would walk down to the mailbox and back. I would walk for two minutes and then I would walk for five minutes. I took my heart rate monitor. I checked my heart rate. At some point, I got on the bike. I kept my heart rate below 100 beats per minute because that’s what it got to when I walked slowly up the hill near my house. I got on and there were some days where I did five minutes. I just pedaled and my heart rate was in the 80s but it reminded me I’m alive. I’m doing what I love. It’s only for five minutes. For all those people that wonder if these five-minute classes count, they do. You do what you can when you can to the best of your ability.

I was going to say the same thing when you got done. I was like, “For all those people, everybody’s out of their game in the system. This is what they got.”

That was life-saving for you to be able to get on and do those five minutes. That meant everything.

We ended up going for a second opinion at Mayo Clinic. When that doctor told me, “Yes, we need to do surgery and we need to do it as soon as possible,” the first thing I said to my husband was, “Take me to Minneapolis to the Mall of America. There is a Peloton kiosk there. I need to get on the bike. I need to process this diagnosis and this plan for surgery.” We have pictures of me at that time at the Mall of America, which seems crazy to me. They only had a kiosk. You’re like in a fishbowl in the biggest mall. They have 2 or 3 bikes. This was September of 2018. I put on a Christine class. I put my headphones on and we have pictures of me riding the bike processing, “I have to have brain surgery.” That’s how I deal with things. I get on the bike.

How did the surgery turn out or go? It worked to some degree. You’re talking to us. What came next?

A couple of weeks later, I had a stent in that artery. The goal was to divert blood flow away from the aneurysm so that the aneurysm would shrink. Six months later, I went back for a recheck, another surgery and it worked. The brain aneurysm is gone. At that point, I was able to start getting back into working out again.

How scary was that first ride where you’re like, “I don’t have to worry about this?”

I took it slowly, not only with riding because I had been riding prior to that. They told me as soon as I had that surgery in October, I needed to rest for two weeks and then I could slowly start incorporating exercise again. I did not do any form of strength training for a year. I started with cardio. The scariest part for me was getting back into strength training because I was worried about straining too much and doing something to that artery. The bike felt fantastic. When I pushed too hard, my body would tell me like my head would go numb and I would back off. I would get off the bike. I would drink a lot of water. I would rest for a few days and then come right back to it.

It did not scare me enough to stop and every week I just continued to get better and better. When I started strength training, especially upper body, I didn’t even use weights. I would do arms classes by holding a fist with no weight. I progressed quickly. Your body remembers. By December 2019, I was doing Andy’s total strength program. I’m getting stronger every day. Tying it all together, Christine’s Heart Rate Zone training allowed me to work out at an effort that was what my body needed at the time. In fact, before my diagnosis, I would get on the bike and I realized that my effort level did not match my heart rates. My heart rate was sky high but my effort level felt okay. That was a red flag that something is off and now post-surgery, everything is healed, heart rate matches effort. I don’t work out nearly as hard as I used to. I’m doing a lot more strength now. I do primarily endurance. If I do high intensity, they’re the fifteen-minute HIIT classes. Some of those fifteen-minute HIIT classes on the bike are super hard, super intense. That’s all you need.

I often tell people who are new don’t feel like a long class is out of reach and a short class isn’t because those short classes can take you out. They are harder than a long class, in my opinion.

Is this something that is done now? Is it something that once it’s happened to you, you’re more likely to have it happen again or your body works in such a way that you need to be concerned about it? Was it a fluke thing and now you’re good?

I’m hoping it was a fluke and it never happens again, who knows? I will be rechecked. They’ll check me again in another few years to make sure that everything is good. You’ve got to live your life. I keep going each day. I don’t think about it nearly as much as I used to. It’s always a little bit of a concern.

Are there things that they have you do that are things that will prevent it from happening again? Is it just like, “That was an odd occurrence? We don’t know what caused it so we don’t have anything for you to do to prevent it?”

I’ll be on aspirin for the rest of my life as stroke prevention. That’s the main concern at this point. All I can say is if it happens again, let it happen on the other one that doesn’t even connect to my brain and then I’ll never know.

Is there a way to connect it now that they know? I didn’t know if that was even an option.

No, it’s not. Where my aneurysm was located many years ago, they wouldn’t have been able to do anything about it. They did a procedure that is newer, maybe ten years old. I’m grateful that it happened at this point when medical advances have caught up and can do these types of procedures.

How do the Peloton community and the Peloton bike itself fit into your recovery and what life looks like now?

Exercise is much a part of my day. It’s like I get up and I make my bed every day. I view exercise the same way and I don’t do it to look a certain way. I do it because I do love it. The community of Peloton has been supportive along with my core group of Facebook friends that have been with me through this whole journey. It’s been a positive part of my recovery. I have a little story about all of that coming together. Have you done Christine’s Pink ride?

I don’t know that I took the ride. Didn’t that get taken down and then she redid it? Is that the one?

I don’t think so. It was one of the artists’ series rides and it was all Pink music.

I need to see if I’ve done that because Pink is one of my favorites.

It’s good. It’s hard. I’ve only done it once. It’s only for 30 minutes. You should check it out. I don’t know if it was 5, 50 or what but it was a minor milestone. I wasn’t even thinking about a shout out. I did it live. I got a shout out and it was incredible. My leaderboard name is AneurysmSrvivr. Sometime later someone hosts on the Official Peloton Member Page, the OPP turned OPMP. She got on the bike that day because she had just lost her best friend to a brain aneurysm rupture. She got on the bike and she chose Pink because it was her best friend’s favorite musician.

In the ride, she hears my shout out to an aneurysm survivor. She didn’t tag me in this post. She said, “Whoever you are, I want to let you know how happy I am that you’re alive. I got on this ride knowing I would be reminded of my friend because of Pink but having no idea that I would hear about an aneurysm survivor on the ride.” Someone recognized me and tagged me so I could respond to her. Christine came on and said that she lost her father to an aneurysm rupture. All of these things that come together, Christine is my absolute favorite instructor. I feel like she’s been with me every step of the way. I’ve never met her. I may never meet her in person but she has been such a special part of my recovery. To be reminded that we’re strong and capable, whatever we can do is the best we can do. It was a special moment that I will never forget.

That is the power of Peloton right there.

Do you have any advice for people getting the Peloton?

Try all the content and don’t pigeonhole yourself into one instructor. Try them all, try different rides. I ride with almost everybody. I also have the tread now. I run with everybody. Andy completely changed the way I strength train. I love very specific programs with heavyweights. There is so much content.

Thank you for taking time out of your day to join us and for sharing that story with us. It was quite the tale. I feel anxious about having heard it. I can’t imagine having lived it.

Don’t feel anxious. It had a happy ending.

Before we go, where can people find you on social media if you would like to be found?

I’m in every single Peloton group. I’m not super active but you can find me in most of them. I just started Instagram. I have no idea what I’m doing but I’m @January.Robin on Instagram. I only use it to post my workouts, my Tonal and Peloton workouts. You can find me there.

Thank you for joining us. We appreciate it.

Thank you.

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That brings this one to a close. What pray tell do you have in store for people next week?

For anybody who read last episode when I said it’s going to be either/or, they probably can figure it out. In case you didn’t listen, we are going to be talking to Angelo Poli, and he is with MetPro. He is going to blow your mind with all kinds of weight loss information, nutrition information, exercise, not gimmicky stuff.

We’re not going to sell you supplements or potions.

We’re going to talk science is what we’re going to do. Let me tell you, this is going to be a special treat because we just had the interview, and I happened to know you guys are going to want to read to the end of this interview. There’s going to be some news dropped that’s going to blow your mind and you need to be there. It’s all I will say.

Until next week, where can people find you?

People can find me at Facebook.com/CrystalDOKeefe. They can find me on Instagram, Twitter on the Bike and of course the Tread, @ClipOutCrystal.

You can find me on Twitter, @RogerQBert or on Facebook at Facebook.com/TomOKeefe. You can find the show online at Facebook.com/TheClipOut. While you’re there, like the page, join the group and sign up for our newsletter at theclipout.com. Wherever you’re getting your podcasts from, be sure and subscribe so you never miss an episode. If you want to see our lovely faces as all these words spill out of our mouth, you can go check out YouTube.com/TheClipOut. That’s it for this one. Thanks for tuning in. Until next time, keep pedaling and running.

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