Has Peloton Legend Hunting Gone Too Far?

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This week we dive into all the latest Peloton news and fitness updates. We break down Peloton’s new Sculpt Flow class type and discuss whether legend hunting is getting out of hand. Plus, we explore rumors about OG Bike upgrades and the ongoing cord drama with the Peloton Tread. Find out the latest on Peloton ads in ChatGPT and what a Peloton “white paper” might reveal about the future of fitness. We also cover the official end of the mPaceline app, celebrity sightings, instructor news, and so much more. This episode is packed with everything you need to know about what’s happening in the world of Peloton.

• Peloton introduces a brand new class type: Sculpt Flow.
• Is the community’s “legend hunting” for high-fives becoming too much?
• We discuss the possibility of the original Peloton Bikes getting an upgrade path.
• There’s more cord drama affecting Peloton Tread owners.
• An update on the integration of Peloton ads within ChatGPT.
• Peloton’s Senior Manager of Corporate Wellness Projects has resigned.
• A newly discovered Peloton “white paper” gives us a glimpse into the future of fitness.
• The original mPaceline app is officially no longer supported.
• Don’t miss The Clip Out’s 2025 Holiday Gift Guide for the fitness fan in your life.
• Good news for bakers: premade superhero muffins are now available.
• We check in on Cliff Dwenger’s journey on The Voice Germany.
• TheBlast.com shines a spotlight on Peloton instructor Cody Rigsby.
• Jess King shares her top holiday fitness tips with People Magazine.
• Emma Lovewell made a guest appearance on Fox 5 in San Diego.
• Selena Samuela provides a pregnancy update, reaching the 34-week mark.
• Actor Cheyenne Jackson was spotted in a recent Matty Maggiacomo class.
• Competitor iFit is launching a new reality show.
• Tonal releases its annual “State Of Strength” report.
• The Clip Out Top Five: A recap of the community’s favorite Peloton classes this week.
• This Week at Peloton: A look at the official schedule and featured classes.
• TCO Radar: We highlight the upcoming Peloton classes we are most excited about.
• Emma Lovewell’s popular “Crush Your Core” program is making a comeback.
• Happy Birthday to Peloton instructor Marcel Maurer on December 12th.

Transcript:

Speaker: welcome to the Clip Out podcast episode 4 42. This is Crystal O’Keefe

Speaker 2: and this is Tom Oe. Hi. Hi. Now you got me thinking about cookies. You were showing me we’re gonna, you’re gonna make cookies on Saturday. I was gonna say, we are gonna make cookies on. Yeah. But I think we all know you’re,

Speaker: you’re gonna sit around and and make dick jokes in the living room.

Speaker 2: I’m going to eat, eat. The boys going to eat cookies

Speaker: on Saturday.

Speaker 2: I don’t know that I’ll be with the boys. ’cause normally there’s probably like some sort of sporting [00:01:00] event on or something.

Speaker: Yeah, that’s true. And I’ll

Speaker 2: just be like, oh

Speaker: yeah. I’m like,

Speaker 2: I got a screener link for Wicked.

Speaker: I wanna watch Wicked.

Speaker 2: That’s how it normally goes when I hang out with the boys.

Speaker: Well, I know your niece will say yes, and she always gets her way. So there you go. Ooh.

Speaker 2: And then all the boys hate me ’cause I got football kicked off tv.

Speaker: Although she does like her football and her hockey, so Yeah. Yeah. You may not win. I don’t know.

Yeah,

Speaker 2: it’s a jump ball. It is. Do you jump in football?

Speaker: I mean, when you’re jumping over another person, you knock down. Okay,

Speaker 2: sure.

Speaker: Jumping into the end zone, we’re so not sportsy.

Speaker 2: No, not at all. Not at all. So, uh, what Pray, tell do you have in store for people this week?

Speaker: Well, this week we’ve got a very, very busy episode.

Peloton has been rolling out new class types and one of them is called Sculpt Flow. Uh, so we’re gonna talk about that. We’re also going to be talking about legend hunting. Peloton [00:02:00] legend hunting, it’s a thing. And uh, it might be it’s getting a

Speaker 3: little crazy. It

Speaker: might be getting a little outta hand.

Um, yeah. And uh, also this is big news. Uh, OG bike unit, OG bike owners might finally see an upgrade path. Uh, not to mention there is core drama that is brewing for tread users. Hmm. We’re gonna dig into the latest twist with Peloton ads showing up in chat, GPTA new departure from Pelotons Corporate Wellness Team, a new white paper that claims to reveal the future of fitness.

We’re gonna say goodbye to the original M Pace Line app. We’ve also got some highlights from the clip out holiday gift guide. And Oh my God. Pre-made superhero muffins. We’ve, I know, but it’s a big thing. I’m telling you. No, it, it sounds silly to me, but I know

Speaker 2: you guys really care about the superhero muffins.

They’re

Speaker: so good. Um, also, [00:03:00] lots of instructor news, voice, Germany update for Cliff. We’ve got Cody Rigsby featured on the Blast. Jess King sharing holiday fitness tips. Emma Lovewell on TV in San Diego. Selena. Finally hit 34 weeks.

Speaker 2: Ooh, that’s good. Yes. Yes.

Speaker: Uh, and, uh, Cheyenne Jackson showed up in Madi Mao’s class.

I fit. Reality television. What the heck is happening? Yeah. Tonal unveiled. Its annual state of strength report. Of course, we’ve also got your TCO top five. What’s happening this week at Peloton? The classes we’re excited for on the radar, and a fan favorite is Returning Crush. Your core is back.

Speaker 2: Okay, well, before we get to all that shameless.

Plugs. Don’t forget, we’re available on Apple Podcast Spotify, iHeart. Tune in. Uh, while you’re there. Be sure and follow us. You never miss an episode. May leave us a review. Also, don’t forget, our patreon, patreon.com/the clip out makes a wonderful holiday gift.

Speaker: It sure does for the. [00:04:00]

Speaker 2: Peloton enthusiast in your life.

Speaker: You can, you used to not be able to give gifts, gifts, subscriptions on Patreon, but you can now. Oh,

Speaker 2: that’s awesome. That, so that

Speaker: is really cool. Yeah.

Speaker 2: Also don’t forget if you’re on the fence, you can try it free for seven days. Yes. There. So there’s that. It’s,

Speaker: we have somebody new doing that today. Yeah. I just saw somebody pop in.

Oh. And we had several new members last week, so, yeah.

Speaker 2: So, hello. Hello. And uh, w it’s only five bucks a month. It gets you ad free episodes, it gets you bonus episodes, and it gets you early episodes. And our undying love and affection. It’s

Speaker: true.

Speaker 2: Well, but if you cancel, it dies. But no, we appreciate the support we

Speaker: do.

Uh,

Speaker 2: even if it’s only for a few months.

Speaker: That’s right.

Speaker 2: Uh, over on the Paton this week, it’s a jam packed one.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Like, we’re gonna be talking about how Johanne continues to create buzz.

Speaker: Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: For good, or [00:05:00] ill, we shall

Speaker: got a little. We’ve got some, we’ve got some tea to spill.

Speaker 2: We, she’s,

Speaker: we’ve got some receipts too.

Speaker 2: She’s a sassy one. Woo. And, uh, we’ll also be taking a look at the, in the new instructors in general, just, uh, what’s going on with their credentials, Uhhuh and their bonafides. There’s some questions. We’ve got some questions. We’ve talking about that. We got some questions over on the Patreon. We’re also gonna talk about how your Apple Watch can get you in trouble, especially if you’re doing things that.

Could get you in trouble. A new and exciting way to expose infidelity, courtesy of the ghost of Steve Jobs, and, uh, also fitness streaks. Maybe they’re not as important as you think and why you should think about breaking them. So that’s all waiting for you and more. Over on the bonus this week, so it’s a good week to jump in.

Also, don’t forget, you can find us on Facebook, facebook.com/the clip out. While you’re there, like the page, join the group. Check out the [00:06:00] YouTube youtube.com/the clip out, and then of course, don’t forget, you can sign up for our newsletter, get weekly reminders that we exist in links to most of the things that we’re discussing.

If you want to follow up. And do your own research as Joe Rogan recommends. I,

Speaker: I always recommend that anyway. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2: So, uh, this has all sorts of tips on how to do your own double blind studies because you’re a scientist. So there’s all that. Let’s, uh, let’s stick in, shall we?

Speaker: We shall Tim Shaughnessy looking at you.

Speaker 2: Peloton has debuted a new class type, kind of sorta, but not really.

Speaker: Well, it’s interesting, um, it’s called Sculpt Flow. Okay. Now the interesting part is that. This, as far as we can tell, is the same as yoga conditioning.

Mm-hmm. Which Peloton has been doing. But, um, but Greta says that Peloton discovered her in her type [00:07:00] of yoga and that she’s been working on getting it all set up for the last six months. Now. Now in, in fairness, I don’t know if she just means that like getting everybody on board with like. You have to learn certain language.

The Peloton language, right? You have to learn, when you become a new instructor, there’s always six months of training. So this could just be when she says six months to set up. It could just be that training that goes along with that, right? You have to learn how to talk to the camera, the red light, the people who are in the class.

You have to be able to do shout outs. You have to be able to. And keep everybody engaged, but also listen in your ear to what’s going on in the control room. It’s a lot. It’s, there’s a lot of things going on. It’s

Speaker 4: a lot.

Speaker: So, so all that is being, you know, trained over those six months. And I’m not clear if she’s saying that like.

It took six months to set up this type of yoga.

Speaker 4: Right? In

Speaker: which case I am confused because it was called yoga conditioning. And um, now people that have taken it, I have not taken it yet, but the people who have, [00:08:00] the only comment that looked, that showed me that it was any different is that it’s queued very much to the music beat, number one.

Okay. And number two, it does appear to be slightly faster rhythm and more. More sets of it, not just like, like kind of switching things up more quickly, but doing more sets of the moves. I don’t know, uh, if that is accurate or not. I, like I said, I haven’t taken it. I know. I will tell you, yoga conditioning was great.

I loved it and it really warmed me out and it made me surprisingly sore the day before the marathon when I did it in New York. Um. But they changed everything. So there used to be a filter that was like yoga conditioning, and now it says sculpt flow. Gotcha. So everything has been rebranded and that is all courtesy of due to thankful for our new instructors.

It’s, I’m a little perplexed by the whole thing. I’m not gonna lie. Yeah. And, and I don’t mean it as a bad thing, right. I just, I just would like to, I’d love some insight from [00:09:00] Peloton is how we got from point A Yeah. To point B. What exactly are the differences? And, and that’s part of what we’re gonna talk about in the bonus when it comes to the certifications, because I have some questions.

Speaker 2: So it’s one fourth of a pound. You mean a quarter pounder? No,

Speaker: no,

Speaker 2: that’s totally different. This is one fourth of a pound.

Speaker: Exactly, exactly.

Speaker 2: I don’t understand what you don’t understand. It’s a fourth of a pound. My goodness.

Speaker: My goodness. Indeed.

Speaker 2: Okay, let’s talk about legend hunters. Okay. This is not, zelda adjacent?

No. Although it sounds like it would be like a new game on the switch,

Speaker: to be honest, I made it up. You know, it’s, it’s so when

Speaker 2: you hear other people saying it,

Speaker: it started here.

Speaker 2: It started here.

Speaker: I mean, it won’t be the first time.

Speaker 2: No, we just like to get on the record tm the clip out.

Speaker: Okay. But legend hunting.

So we’re gonna talk about Robin’s legend ride at the end of this [00:10:00] conversation. Okay. I’ll wait here. Okay. But, here’s the thing, if. If legend status is important to you, especially for people who have been around for a while.

Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.

Speaker: There is a lot of conversation about it, and some people are very, like, mean.

Ian Witchman, who is a, an og Okay. Posted on the OPP, that he was really bummed that he is not considered a legend and that he. Wishes he had been invited to the legend ride. And the reason that that’s a big deal is like this dude has been around forever.

Speaker 2: Like, he’s like pro, maybe even a Kickstarter purchase, right?

I mean, I don’t know if

Speaker: he’s Kickstarter, but he’s like within that first year, I’m pretty sure. Right. Um, and he and people, instead of. Empathizing people were like, work harder. Like, okay, but that’s not the way that this is designed. The way that this is designed, and let’s be clear, it’s a marketing ploy that’s all this is.

We, I feel frustrated at this and I feel personally responsible for this. So let me back up for a second. [00:11:00] Back when Ben worked at Peloton, we had a whole conversation about how can Peloton reward the people who have been long-term members because I was very vocal about, they felt screwed over and used and like not appreciated by Peloton and

Speaker 2: thrown

Speaker: to the side, thrown to the side.

So we had a conversation about that, and I don’t know how that evolved into this, because Ben’s been gone for over a year. Yeah. Or if

Speaker 2: maybe it didn’t, if it may have had

Speaker: nothing to do with it. But I would

Speaker 2: be a Ky dink.

Speaker: But the loyalty program is like when you hear loyalty, you think people who have been around the longest.

Yeah. Right. But the way this is designed is actually to credit the people who take the widest variety of classes. Right. And the shortest number of like the shortest duration. So if you take. And stack a bunch of five minute classes, you are going to get to legend status faster [00:12:00] than if you take 1 45 minute ride every day.

Speaker 2: I get that they’re in a tough spot here. Sure. They wanna reward frequent users. They want to reward longtime users. And you would think in most instances, if you’ve been a member for a long time, that you would probably have accumulated enough to trigger.

Speaker: But the big part that you get is milestones, right?

And the milestones are across the different disciplines. So if all you’ve done is ride the bike, right? You have very few points.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker: And that is where the OG members feel a little hurt.

Speaker 2: Sure. ’cause I mean, I get that Peloton doesn’t wanna just say, well you’ve had a bike for 10 years, so here you go.

Because they might have stopped riding that bike two years ago. Yeah. Those people are out there. Yeah, absolutely. And, and so like, you don’t want to like, give somebody legend status that hasn’t touched the bike in two years or any piece of equipment or the app in two years. And so, uh, that’s fair. So like, you want to cr create a model that.

Rewards [00:13:00] usage, but you also have to be careful to create. You don’t wanna create a model that rewards people using the bike, I’m sorry, I keep saying bike. Using the equipment, the app, the service, their membership. In a way that’s unhealthy. Right? Right. Like now you’ve incentivized them to exercise for nine hours a day and, okay.

Speaker: So, so inter legend hunting, that’s a great segue. Yeah because there’s a woman for who posted on. I don’t, I think it was the official moms group and she talked about how she has 15, this is a great example. She has 15,000 points accumulated this year. I’m sorry, 15,000 minutes on Peloton. Mm-hmm.

This year her husband has seven.

Speaker 2: Seven minutes,

Speaker: 7,000 minutes. Oh,

Speaker 2: okay. I was like, seven minutes. Yeah, seven minutes. He’s my, he’s almost as good as I am.

Speaker: But the thing is, is he is a legend and she’s not. And not only is she not, she’s 22,000 points from becoming a legend, so like nowhere [00:14:00] close to it. So she’s

Speaker 2: using her membership.

Over twice as much

Speaker: and getting not even close to the stat. Yeah. So that is where the frustration comes in. Sure. And I know people listening understand this, but like I feel the need to explain it on this level because the people in the OPP and elsewhere, it’s like the, the whole world is so polarized that like you say, a thing and everybody just has to be a dick, just to be a dick.

Speaker 4: Right.

Speaker: And it’s frustrating. So this lady, she decided to put all of her information. Into chat GPT and say, now give me, oh, you, you don’t

Speaker 2: have to do that. It already has it all. You just put in your membership number and it, it just spits out all your data.

Speaker: Not quite, but yeah, that is, that is what some people think.

And uh, she said, give me a plan. To get to legend as quickly as possible,

Speaker 2: and it’s like, quit your job. Stop being so goddamn lazy.

Speaker: Well, what it is is kind of un unrealistic. Like, first of all, it has her working out seven days a week. [00:15:00] Okay. That’s not recommended. Yeah. Now meditation. Yeah, absolutely. You know, like take a meditation, do a yoga, do you know, do some, uh, restorative yoga, especially on that.

Like take a day off and do some of those things, that’s a great time to do it. But what it has her doing is stacking and some of the stuff doesn’t even exist. Like a take take a 10 minute bootcamp. What really? Show me where that exists. Yeah. Like what is that? A five minute run and a five minute lift?

Like, I don’t even know what that is, but. But that’s the point, right? Like 10 minute

Speaker 2: bootcamp. That, that’s a, that gets you a dishonorable discharge. That’s what that gets you.

Speaker: And then, and then you stack that with a five minute ride and you stack that with a, you know, it’s like. It’s frustrating.

Yeah. Is what it is, you know? Um, and then for all the people, there are lots of people who take a wide variety of classes and earned their legend status appropriately. Like I, I in No, absolutely. I in no way mean that they didn’t, yeah. There are just some people that have just taken short classes and stacked [00:16:00] them the entire time, and they are going to be,

Speaker 2: they’re inadvertently benefiting from that.

Speaker: And that’s where the people who have been around for a long time feel frustrated.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker: But, uh, having said all of that,

Speaker 2: let, let me ask you something real quick before we transition, okay?

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker 2: Can you lose your legend status?

Speaker: No.

Speaker 2: Like if you, like all of a sudden. Stop working out so much. The only

Speaker: way that you can lose any status is if you cancel your membership.

Speaker 2: Okay.

Speaker: If you pause, it doesn’t go away. If you cancel it, it goes away. Everything’s

Speaker 2: gone. Or if they find out you’ve used an echelon.

Speaker: Well, no, because it counts on the app. It counts on the app, right? It doesn’t.

Speaker 2: It’s,

Speaker: it does stop. It knows, and it just, it just sits

Speaker 2: there. Your, your legend odometer just sits there and spins.

Yeah. It starts going backwards. That’s what they should do. Like if they think you’re working out too much, they just start knocking off a point.

Speaker: Well, I mean, there are people who do work out too much that like get an unhealthy degree and, and it’s a problem. [00:17:00] Yeah. And like it, I don’t think Peloton is in any way trying to encourage that.

I don’t think that’s their goal.

Speaker 2: I think they’re tr, I think they’re making an active decision to not encourage that to reward people without encouraging overuse and that. And that it’s creating this situation, which then the unintended consequence of that

Speaker: is somebody goes off and creates their own plan and does overuse is

Speaker 2: like, how can I hack this system so I can get the status?

Yeah, for sure.

Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. And it is frustrating. It is. Like it is, I mean, at the same time, like what we’re talking, you know. A discount and then, you know, like a few fa like, you’re not really missing out on much,

Speaker 2: but if you’re super involved in the community,

Speaker: yeah.

Speaker 2: You, you know, you, you want that emblem. You do,

Speaker: you know, you do.

It feels weird to not have it. Yeah. It feels weird to be, I mean, I, I am one of those people. Yeah. Like, I’m not like upset about it. I don’t wanna make it sound like I am, I’m not like, but it’s a [00:18:00] little

Speaker 2: irksome.

Speaker: It’s, it kind of feels like there’s a party that you weren’t. Invited to. Yeah. And, and it’s like, but I created.

Part of the party that’s going. Yeah. So I feel very left out. Like I feel like I should have an honorable mention and, and, and I think that’s where all the OGs are coming from. Yeah. They, they created the community, right? Like people in the OPP are like, yeah, yeah, you’re the one. But like they are the ones, yeah.

Like this company would not exist if it were not for those people. And to

Speaker 2: be clear. You are not an og. I am not an og. Not, yeah. Like you, I’m not, you’re, you are definitely an early adopter, but you’re not, you don’t, no. You’re not saying OG and like, oh, by the way, I happen to be one. Nope. So therefore it’s like, no, like it’s, no,

Speaker: it’s, it’s those that came before.

Yeah. You know, the ones that were 2013 and, and 2012 Kickstarters. Even 2014. Like, and they sold so many goddamn bikes. Yeah. They sold so like, so many bikes. Hundreds of bikes that you cannot even wrap your head around. Yeah. If you’re a person who’s in it now, you can’t wrap your head around that.

Speaker 2: It used to be if you sold a [00:19:00] bike, what you got like three months?

Three. You got months. Yeah. And there were people out there that were like, they just started paying for their memberships. Like

Speaker: last

Speaker 2: year, like Yeah, like eight months ago. Yeah. ’cause they had. Up that much. That’s how many bikes they sold. That’s a

Speaker: lot. I mean, that’s so, and that and that. Yes, that doesn’t include me.

That, that’s not, that’s so far beyond me and those are the people that inspired me. That’s, that’s what inspired this podcast was wanting to get to know those people and understand what drove them and their, their thinking. So that is what inspired this podcast. I am like. Like you said, an early adopter.

I’m not an og. Now for people who started in 2020 and after, I probably seem like an og. Sure, yeah. But no, no. There are people that have been around so much longer. I

Speaker 2: also think there are a lot of people that define OG u. There’s not an official definition, of course. Right. Of course. We’re making it all up.

The one that clip out Crystal has deemed, but but I think for a lot of people that came along. Pandemic or [00:20:00] post pandemic, like they probably do consider you an og. Like to them that dividing point is very different and they’re like, you know, you got your bike in 2016. Mm-hmm. So like. To them. That sounds like a million years ago.

You know? And in

Speaker: some ways it is.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker: Well, okay, so then we get to Robin’s Legend Ride. Now, this is the first time we’ve seen a perk. Peloton announced that this would be a thing when they announced Club Peloton. This was not new information. Yeah. Though people think it is, and um, they said, Hey, we’re gonna, we’re gonna do this.

And Peloton put forth a ride that was only visible to those who were legends and they put it on the calendar and it was for this past Tuesday. The big question was like, what happens after that? Like, um, only legends were invited. Only Legends could see it on their calendar. They ended up getting, after we reported on it, people did get an invite to it, like they got a email.

Right. By the [00:21:00] way, some very sad people thought that they were being invited to a live

Speaker 2: class. Ooh,

Speaker: yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2: That’s.

Speaker: Yeah. That, that just like broke my heart for them.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker: Like, like

Speaker 2: thinking you’re getting this cool thing. Yeah. And then not, not, yeah.

Speaker: And then they, okay, so then they have this class. So then the big question was like, is there gonna be anything special during the class?

And then is it gonna show up on demand? It was never a question. Of course they’re gonna put it on demand. Right. The whole point was that you get it first. Yeah. It says early access. It doesn’t say you never get access. Yeah. Then there were all these people that were upset that it was at noon on a Tuesday.

They were. Bitch, why are you making this during? But like, really when could you make it that somebody isn’t gonna be that, that

Speaker 2: everyone would be like, perfect. Yeah. We all share this moment in time.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Off work.

Speaker: And then there are people that are like, this was Al Robin’s idea. She just likes to be special.

And I’m just like, why? Why does everybody hate? Do they actually

Speaker 2: type out Ram Ram? No, I totally heard it. Oh, okay. Like [00:22:00] I, I heard it

Speaker: in my voice. Curious or in that voice when I was reading it in my head,

Speaker 2: I was just wanna know how you. Spell it.

Speaker: Oh, it’s uh, R-R-H-H-R-R. Okay. Period. And then like, keep repeating that word over and over.

Okay. So, um, they were upset because they felt like, you know, Peloton should make this available to everybody. And why is it Robin? And Robin is, she just loves to be exclusive, so she must have been the one that created this. People. I really doubt that any instructor is that involved in the marketing decisions of Peloton.

Speaker 2: Yeah, that seems fair.

Speaker: And furthermore. It was always planned. So there are going to be multiple classes. Assuming this is popular, this is clearly a test. Yeah. They did it during a weekday to kind of figure out like, what is that gonna look like? How busy is it gonna be? How much do we have to worry about here?

I

Speaker 2: think they were deliberately throttling because they. They wanted to get a handle before they really kicked it full lot. I totally agree. Yeah. It’s a test.

Speaker: It’s a test. Yeah. Uh, now [00:23:00] there are those that said, well then why didn’t Robin say that during the class? And that’s a fair point. Yeah. Like that is a super fair point, I think because they couldn’t promise it because they don’t know the results of it till after they go back and look at everything.

Yeah. And make sure that it’s what they wanna do. They’re gonna take a look at all this. This opinions that everybody keeps posting. They’re gonna look at the data, they’re gonna look at how many people showed up live. 4,500 people were counted in 2,500, showed up on the ride. I mean, that’s a pretty big disparity.

There always is a disparity though. Yeah. But the. Ha compare that to all of the new yoga instructors at 8:00 AM Everybody knew it was gonna happen. There were no more than a thousand people on for that. Now that’s yoga. It’s just not nearly as popular as the bike. Right. But that’s a pretty big difference.

Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.

Speaker: So, uh, during the ride, the only thing that happened that was like. Different, well, I guess two things. One, Robin announced some stats for legends and how awesome they were. And things like, you know, they’ve ridden 2 million just the [00:24:00] legends have ridden 2 million minutes this year, whatever it was, you know?

Yeah. And then, and then they also did more shoutouts than they typically do. So Robin is notoriously stingy with shoutouts like notoriously. Yeah. And she did approximately 10 shoutouts throughout this class, which for her is a lot. Gotcha. And everyone on it was obviously a legend, so everyone on it was a person who has been around for a long time.

And everyone felt like they should get a shout out, so I don’t, yeah.

Speaker 4: Yeah.

Speaker: So I don’t know. I, I have a lot of mixed feelings about this. I, I get the impulse to make fun of it. I get the impulse to like say that people are silly for feeling left out. I also get

Speaker 2: the impulse for feeling left out.

Absolutely. Yeah.

Speaker: Absolutely. I mean, listen, I have spent countless hours on this company. This community that what we, I mean, I, I can’t even add them up, how many hours I alone have spent on it. And that is just me. Now you add [00:25:00] all the other people to it who have spent hours and hours and hours Yeah.

In the studio and talking and like, they made these instructors stars. They just did. Yeah, they did. And, uh, it’s, it’s understandable. People feel left out. It’s understandable.

Speaker 4: Yeah.

Speaker: I am really curious to see where Peloton lands on this going forward though, because it is very opposite of together. We go far When you are.

Purposely excluding groups of people.

Speaker 2: I mean, it’s difficult to craft loyalty programs that don’t end up getting gamed in some way, or making people who are avid users somehow just fall between the cracks and feel left out. That’s a difficult needle to thread.

Speaker: It is. It is a difficult needle. Needle to thread.

I, I guess to me though, it’s obvious you take care of those who’ve been around the longest.

Speaker 2: Yeah. But how do you. Define that. Especially like you might you, like we said before, you probably have some people that have been around a long time but aren’t necessarily using the product all that much anymore.

Speaker: So, well, [00:26:00] I would also counter, that’s one way to get ’em back Yeah. Is to make them feel appreciated. Yeah. And special instead of tossed to the side like a piece of trash. Yeah.

Speaker 2: So speaking of og Yeah. Or OG bikes.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Are they about to become. Upgradable.

Speaker: All right. I don’t know, but I will tell you this.

Thanks. Thanks for coming that up. Well, it’s an interesting thing. So, so Howard Rubin, AKA, the Peloton whisperer I believe, I think I’m saying this correctly. He used to work at Peloton a long time ago. Um, and so he has a lot of deep understanding of how equipment works. Mm-hmm. And he is often the one telling people, no, no, you don’t need to get a new screen.

Here’s what you need to do. Gotcha. Kind of thing. Instead, instead of billons terrible. Customer service. So here’s the thing. He reported this week that somebody got a delivery of a new bike or new piece of equipment. Mm-hmm. Cross training. And in it there was a pamphlet [00:27:00] that told that had directions on how to upgrade your existing Peloton bike with only the new bike plus or whatever monitor.

The new cross training monitor.

Speaker 2: Okay.

Speaker: And it has very simple directions in it. It is not available for sale. And, uh, people have wondered, will it become for sale? Like, will that be a thing? Peloton has said, no, not now, but they haven’t said no, we’ll never do it.

Speaker 4: Right.

Speaker: But the, the screens are such vastly different sizes.

Most people have just come to the conclusion that you can’t. How would you put, how would you put that on a tread Plus, like I have, you know? Right. So then the next piece of it was Howard took a old bike and hooked it up to a new monitor via like a US BC cord.

Speaker 3: Okay. And

Speaker: it worked just fine.

And so, so he thought that was super interesting. [00:28:00] So it does appear that it is possible that it is, it is possible, yes. Is it going to be sold? It’s still a question mark. Interesting. But this, this certainly. I, this certainly makes people think, including myself, that we are headed down that path.

And I find it really interesting. This is the kind of thing that I get yelled at by Peloton, by putting out there, and I’m just like, you people sent it? Yeah. Like if you’re not happy with how you keep things under wraps, keep things under wraps better. Right. Or I don’t know. Tell me it’s coming and have me sign an NDA.

We’ve done that guys. Yeah. So, so like that’s on you, man. But at the same time. If it is happening, how pissed are people going to be when they just bought a new com, a new piece of equipment being told they couldn’t do this? Right. And it turns out they could have. They

Speaker 2: could have.

Speaker: So

Speaker 2: for a third, the price.

Yeah.

Speaker: It’s gonna be a whole thing. Yeah. When that day comes, so,

Speaker 2: goodness.

Speaker: Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: So we have a quick update on Peloton [00:29:00] ads popping up within the chat. GPT Universe.

Speaker: Well, so their data lead said it wasn’t an ad. They said there were no payments, there were no sponsorships. It was just an app discovery experiment that fired at the wrong time. And Sam Altman pulled a full code red internally, pausing all add tests, pausing, shopping features. Pausing their new pulse assistant and forcing the entire company to focus on core chat GPT quality.

Interesting.

Speaker 2: So in other words, they’re testing it, but you weren’t supposed to know yet.

Speaker: Yeah. Kind of like that thing we just talked about with the screen. Yeah. Yeah. That’s exactly what it is. Yeah. Like you guys can call it whatever you want, but it was an ad.

Speaker 2: Yeah. And, and. AI is hemorrhaging money and they’ve gotta find a way to monetize it.

They

Speaker: do. And, and if you

Speaker 2: think that way isn’t [00:30:00] advertising.

Speaker: It’s so interesting. The company I work for is like this year they have been so, like, we have to come up with like new content that is specific to ai. So we did that and then now they’re like. W Instead of doing more, they’re like, let’s just see what happens next year.

Let’s not do anything. ‘Cause people are now like, they went from being so gung-ho to let’s just see every,

Speaker 2: it’s

Speaker: a bubble. It is, yeah. It’s Abu. There’s no way, it’s not a bubble, it’s a

Speaker 2: look. There’s never been a new technology that isn’t

Speaker: a bubble, that

Speaker 2: isn’t a bubble, that doesn’t say that. It doesn’t end up bouncing back and cementing its place in the commerce world for a good period of time.

But. Yeah. Whenever you have an exciting new technology, there’s a period where it bubble FIEs

Speaker: it. It definitely does. It definitely does. And this has had so much amplification around it. Yeah. Uh, that Yeah, of course. Of course it’s gonna happen. So I don’t know. I did, we just thought it was interesting. Yeah.

Uh, given [00:31:00] that like we were like an ad. For Peloton. Huh?

Speaker 2: You don’t say.

Speaker: Yeah. Very interesting. Very interesting.

Speaker 2: It’s gonna be very insidious though as it works. Its wind ai because those, I don’t think those ads, at least initially, are going to be very easily. Identifiable as ads.

Speaker: Oh, I’m, I’m sure that’s true.

You know, it’s,

Speaker 2: I’m sure that’s true. It’s funny. Uh, remember when your kid watching Saturday morning cartoons?

Speaker: No. They never did that.

Speaker 2: And then they would have those going into commercials.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker 2: After these messages will be right back. That was mandated by law.

Speaker: Not anymore.

Speaker 2: Yeah, because that, because they were like, we need something to show the kids that the commer, that the A, the show has stopped and the commercials have started, especially as the shows started to look more like commercials.

GI Joe.

Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: And the commercials started a little more like shows. It got very blurry. And like you’re seeing the same thing except with your parents. [00:32:00] Yeah. And, and ai. That’s what’s gonna be coming. You think they don’t understand when the news is full of shit. Wait till, wait till they’re on the old ai.

Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Enjoy. It’s a crazy world. Pelotons Senior Manager of corporate wellness projects. Has stepped down. Is there a correlation between how long your job title is and what you get paid?

Speaker: I don’t know. That’s a good question. And then is

Speaker 2: it good or bad?

Speaker: I don’t like the

Speaker 2: longer it is. If you have a couple extra words in there, that’s their way of like paying you less.

Speaker: I don’t, it may

Speaker 2: just sound more important. We threw in like three more words.

Speaker: Uh, I don’t think that’s quite what’s going on, but I do. I do say, I feel like, I know that he said he’s decided to close this chapter, but I can’t help but wonder if he was let go. And I don’t mean like, because he didn’t do a good job.

Right, right. I just mean because Peloton has done so many cost cutting. Yeah. And they’re doing it so like under [00:33:00] the, you know, like. Keep it on the dl. Right. It just makes me wonder. Yeah, that’s fair. And also it says Emergency emerging business partnerships at Peloton. And we talked about last week about a person in the partnerships division that was let go and they were doing the marketing for those partnerships.

And again, I will say, if that is the case, what on earth do you have to do at that company? Yeah. To succeed.

Speaker 2: And I mean, I can’t imagine they’ve stopped doing corporate wellness projects. No way. I can’t imagine they’ve stopped doing partnerships. I wonder if internally there’s some consolidation of job duties that this is

Speaker: I’m sure

Speaker 2: indicative of.

Speaker: I’m sure it is. I mean, when you gotta cut costs, that’s the way that it works. It’s just, I don’t know. I, to me it’s, I find it fascinating and interesting because. It’s just done very quietly. And it’s like, there was a period of time where they would be like, we did a, we did a layoff, we did a layoff, we did a layoff.

And now it’s just happening and they’re not saying anything.

Speaker 2: Right. But I

Speaker: think it’s still happening. Yeah. And [00:34:00] that’s my larger point.

Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. So, uh, Peloton has a white paper out there where they’re talking about, uh. What they see is the future of fitness.

Speaker: Well, this is Athleta. This is not Peloton.

Okay. Let’s

Speaker 2: be clear. Oh, I thought it was Pelotons White

Speaker: paper. No, it’s Athleta News.

Speaker 2: Oh, I thought Athleta was reporting on a Peloton white paper.

Speaker: No, no. And Athleta, they, they think they know everything about all.

Speaker 2: Gotcha. You know,

Speaker: and, and they get some really good info. So I’m not even telling, yeah. I’m not being rude about it or anything but no, that’s not what this is.

Oh, it does say, it does say Peloton, author. My bad. I Okay. In my, in my defense. It said it said it’s something different and I can’t find that sentence now, but it said Athleta. Yeah. Does this, but you are correct. My bad, Tom, my bad.

Speaker 2: Now will this be edited out of the final show? No, I

Speaker: will leave it, I’ll leave it for you.

I will leave it for [00:35:00] you. And it, okay, so this is about Peloton and specifically it’s about their, um, university of Texas partnership. Yeah, if you will. And so they’re talking about how it’s changing spaces that they occupy and raising consumer expectations. Um, and that, you know, like a little tiny gym in the basement isn’t gonna cut.

It

Speaker 2: is no longer good enough that it’s changing how. Commercial spaces and residential living areas are being designed that Yeah, like hotels, apartment complexes that Yeah. You can’t just throw a treadmill in a, in the basement and call it a gym. Like you actually have to have real infrastructure. And it says that according to the white paper, 71% of residents.

Of apartment complexes are, are more likely to choose a building with a well equipped gym, and that hotel guests are willing to pay up to $40 more per night for access to premium fitness experiences, which I also find interesting that [00:36:00] people are willing to pay $40 more a night to access a gym, but

Speaker: they complain about $5 a month.

Yes. No, I get that. Yes, I do. Yes. I also think there are people who are willing to pay $40 more a night who think are the same people who think that Pelotons not real fitness. There are, there are, there are snobs in that area. Yeah. Just like there are snobs in any area.

Speaker 2: Yeah. And also there are people that are in the pe peloton ecosystem that are more cost conscious that wouldn’t pay $40 for sure.

A night for a hotel room extra and also don’t wanna pay the $5. So it’s like it’s. It’s not like it’s all the same people making that complaint. No, but

Speaker: it’s it’s hard when you look at this data all the time. Yeah. And you see the comments. It’s hard not to feel like it’s the same people saying both things because it’s so loud.

Speaker 4: Yeah.

Speaker: But in reality it’s a big old mixture. But it also talks about how they are Peloton is. Influencing this planning going forward, like they are right in the middle of [00:37:00] it. So they are trying to influence this and like really push it their way. And I think you’re gonna see it doesn’t specifically say that I saw here, but, but I think you’re also gonna see the pre-course side of things benefit from this.

Yeah. Not just the Peloton side of things. And

Speaker 2: I think long term, what they’re hoping do is they’re wanting to Apple amplify the fitness space, right? Like. I am not an Apple guy. You are?

Speaker: Well, I’m not a guy, but,

Speaker 2: okay. Well, lowercase G.

Speaker: Oh, okay.

Speaker 2: But like the world is easier if you have apple. It is, right.

Like, you know, like it’s not as important anymore, but you know, used to be all the alarm clocks in the hotel rooms had charge reports and you could just drop it on until Apple tunes the charging port and screwed everybody up. But like, but the whole world was just structured around like, well, you probably got an Apple.

Yeah. And, and so I think a lot of people probably end up getting iPhones because they just know it’s gonna be a lower drag on them throughout the course of the day.

Speaker: And still to this day, it’s like, [00:38:00] it’s something like 80% of our listeners are on Apple products. Yeah. Like it’s a very high amount. Yeah.

Like very high.

Speaker 2: And I think they’re looking to do that with the fitness space, like, well, I might as well. I sign up for Peloton if I’m gonna get something like that because every hotel I go to seems to have a Peloton. You know, bike or tread ev, you know, any apartment complex I look at, like anywhere there’s a public fitness space, the YMCA that I go to, the LA Fitness that I go to, it’s all Peloton stuff.

Speaker: So I might as well just get a Peloton. I might

Speaker 2: as well just get the Peloton, then I can

Speaker: use it anywhere. And it’s like having a gym subscription across the country.

Speaker 2: And I think that’s what they’re looking to do. And I think it’s smart.

Speaker: I agree. It’s really smart.

Speaker 2: So the original M Pace line app. Is no more

Speaker: Correct.

We had reported a while back that Peloton had changed the restrictions on the API and some apps were going to be able to follow those new restrictions and some were [00:39:00] not. And Pace Line had signaled they were not, they were planning to shut down completely. However, uh, they came up with, they found that they were able to.

Recreate everything with a brand new app instead of trying to take the old app right and do a complete overhaul to it, that it was gonna be quicker. So now there is a new app called M Pace Line Pulse. And over the weekend people started reporting that Peloton had shut down the API you can no longer log in.

It created a bit of a kerfluffle for the MPAC line folks. People

Speaker 3: felt ker fluffed,

Speaker: they did. But. I gotta say in defense of those running in pace line I’ve known these guys for a long time and they are people, so I am not saying anyone is perfect. Yeah. But like, I have never gotten the vibe that anybody is trying to screw anybody over.

Yeah. And I tell you, there are some similar products out there that I feel like they are so trying to screw you over. So I’m just saying vibe wise, like I’d put my [00:40:00] money. With these guys and assume they’re doing what they can to fix it. Yeah. But it’s gonna take a while for everything on the new app to have what the old app did ’cause they’re still rebuilding it.

Speaker 2: Right.

Speaker: So big milestone that it finally was shut off.

Speaker 2: Absolutely. Obviously the holidays are just around the corner and uh, if you’re not sure what to get people or get yourself, you can do that, you know?

Speaker: Yeah,

Speaker 2: I know. You know. ’cause every time I think I know what I can get, crystal. It shows up in the mail.

Speaker: That’s not true. That is not true. And I gave you months. You knew what I wanted. You could have bought it any time,

Speaker 2: but did you get it before Christmas? You

Speaker: could have told me not to, but that

Speaker 2: ruins the surprise. Yeah. I like to surprise you.

Speaker: All right.

Speaker 2: We have a. Clip out holiday gift guide and I can’t buy anything off of it.

’cause I think we own it all already.

Speaker: We don’t, this is not all for me. This says this is, this is by several different helper bees. Okay? Not just myself. Uh, Nikki put a lot on here. Lisa Warner. Put a lot on here. Liz Nickel. Put a lot on here. Angie put a lot on here. [00:41:00] And I did put things, but it was mostly food for running.

And uh, I will say that I am now in love with the brand CRZ yoga. They are just as good as. Beyond yoga, but a third of the price.

Speaker 2: I like that.

Speaker: Me too. So that’s, I

Speaker 2: do like when your leggings are a third off

Speaker: any way. There’s a ton of stuff on here. There is stuff for your home, there is stuff for fitness, there is stuff for fueling your runs and your any workout.

There’s stuff for taking care of your face and your hands, and also just yourself in general, including the shark, cryo glow, LED, face mask. See, that’s something you could have gotten me. It’s very pricey though. It’s very pricey. Nikki’s likes to, she likes to take care of herself, and I am jealous of the ability for her to take care of herself.

Speaker 3: She’s

Speaker: a little bougie. She is not. She’s not. She’s a down [00:42:00] to earth bougie. So a little bougie. A little bougie.

Speaker 4: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Uh, speaking of food that you like as you just did Yeah. Like nine items ago, Uhhuh. Uh. We now have pre-made superhero muffins. Yeah. Are they on the TCO gift guide?

Speaker: No, because I saw this after and I didn’t go back and update it ’cause that takes work.

But the superhero muffins, so when I was running all the time I got a cookbook that was, that we had talked about on the podcast years ago. Yeah. One of our guests told me about it. It was it was actually Claire Hornstein eat fast, run slow. And uh, I got that cookbook and it has the superhero muffins in it and I made them like.

Every week I would make those and I would eat ’em all week long, and they were amazing. Especially for long runs. And I found out this week through Ali Feller, also a past guest. Mm-hmm. Uh, that’s Ali on the run. Mm-hmm. And, uh, who’s having just a shit year. Yeah, I was gonna say shit year. But we are still sending our love and support to her, but she had a whole thing [00:43:00] about these pre-made muffins exist now, and she made them, and I was like, where are they?

And then like two slides later, there was the link and I was like. Nevermind. Sorry to bother you, Ali. Sorry. I

Speaker 2: forgot how the internet worked.

Speaker: Well, she posted ’em and then she went to something up and I thought they were gone forever. So anyway, you can now buy these pre-made superhero muffins and I’m so here for that.

Speaker 2: Well, we’ll take a quick break while Crystal makes a batch of superhero muffins. And when we come back we have instructors in the news. An update on Cliff Wanger on the voice. Cody Rigsby. Jess King, getting spotlighted. Spot lit in some pretty big publications and, uh, Selena Samuella and an update on her pregnancy journey.

So stick around.

Speaker 2: Cliff D has. Been eliminated from the voice Germany.

Speaker: He did, he made it to the semi-finals. He did not make it to the finals. We are so proud of [00:44:00] him and, uh, we wished him luck and we sent a,

Speaker 2: we are god damn proud of him.

Speaker: God damn, so proud. So proud Cliff. Really that’s a huge deal. Yeah, for sure. That’s a huge deal.

And uh, and we were bummed that he didn’t make it all the way to the finals, but what an honor to make it to the semi-finals. Congratulations on making it that far, and congratulations on all the hard work.

Speaker 2: Absolutely. The blast.com featured Cody Rigsby and his, uh, tee time. Yeah. Thing

Speaker: I just, everything about this is weird to me, but, um, yeah, they, they win.

They talked about what’s gonna be coming up on the next, install, the next and last installment right of tee time until we

Speaker 2: need more, more new instructors. Yeah.

Speaker: And he’ll come back to the uk.

Speaker 2: It’s the Uck.

Speaker: Like, I’m so sorry. So sorry.

Speaker 2: They get, uh, antsy when you don’t call it the right thing. You’re, you’re right.

So need to issue a formal apology.

Speaker: My bad.

Speaker 2: Jess King shared holiday fitness tips [00:45:00] with People Magazine.

Speaker: She did? Yeah. There’s a lot of stuff on here, including how to set your goals for the upcoming new year.

Speaker 2: Cool. And not to be outdone, Emma Lovewell shared Holiday Fitness tips with Fox five in. San Diago,

Speaker: I’m pretty sure it’s San Diego.

Speaker 2: It’s a Wales vagina.

Speaker: So yes, she did lots of holiday tips there as well.

Speaker 2: And then congrats and a big sigh of relief for Selena Samuella, who has reached 34 weeks

Speaker: pregnant with twins. This

Speaker 2: is, that’s it’s a mile. It, it’s a huge, it’s a huge marker. Huge to achieve, to reach when you’re,

Speaker: whenever you are pregnant with twins.

Yeah. Like you, every week you can go is a big deal. So 34 weeks, like you said, key milestone and, uh, whew. We are just sending lots of love and like, I hope everything goes smoothly when it’s time for those babies to, to arrive.

Speaker 2: For sure.

Speaker 2: cheyenne Jackson popped up in a [00:46:00] Maddie Mamo class.

Speaker: I have no idea who this person is.

Speaker 2: He’s a Broadway performer.

Speaker: I should have known. Yeah. It was theater related.

Speaker 2: He was, uh, in the recent Into the Woods.

Speaker: Ah,

Speaker 2: uh, I know

Speaker: that’s one of your favorites.

Speaker 2: I love Into the

Speaker: Woods. That’s good.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker: That’s good.

Speaker 2: And he was also on Once Upon a In Once Upon a Mattress.

Okay. Which I saw half of half of.

Speaker 4: Sorry. Oh, that’s okay. For

Speaker 2: the New York City Marathon. I thought you were gonna be a li You were so fast. Lightning fast. I thought I, I thought, oh, I have plenty of time to catch the matinee. And then intermission. I checked your tracking. Mm-hmm. And I was like, I don’t think I have time.

Speaker: Sorry. So

Speaker 2: I had to leave, had to abandon Sutton Foster.

Speaker: I’m so sorry. I

Speaker 2: hope you’re happy.

Speaker: I am.

Speaker 2: So I will never know. If the mattress was ever once upon. It’s

Speaker: so funny after watching that show what is it? Younger? Younger, like, I love to Sutton Foster, and now I’m a little annoyed at her. Like

Speaker 2: by the end of the show, I, I kind of low key couldn’t stand her.

Speaker: Yes. And

Speaker 2: it was so [00:47:00] weird because at the beginning I was like, well, she is just adorable. Just

Speaker: adorable. And like,

Speaker 2: and like I loved her in, in music Man. Yes. I thought she was, that was amazing performance. It

Speaker: was, it was an amazing performance

Speaker 2: because that’s such an. Outdated role.

Speaker: And she brought, she brought freshness and,

Speaker 2: yeah.

And, and without changing a word of dialogue and Yeah. And so, but yeah, Cheyenne Jackson popped up in a Maddy class. I don’t think anyone should be shocked that Broadway people are going to Maddy classes.

Speaker: No, no, definitely not. Especially with his brand new podcast that he’s got going on

Speaker 2: for sure.

Speaker 2: IFit. Of all people. Mm-hmm. People, meaning companies. Yeah. But legally they’re people now. It’s getting a reality show.

Speaker: They are. And it’s to choose their next instructor. And I think it’s brilliant and I think it’s a real shame. Peloton didn’t do this.

Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.

Speaker: Especially ’cause like can you imagine how we all would’ve been like, clamoring around our[00:48:00] favorites and like, we would’ve gone crazy?

Yeah. It would’ve been, it would’ve been huge. And the awareness that it would’ve brought and the fans, it would’ve embedded into the Peloton community. Yeah. From day one. Yeah. For these people, yeah. To me is a huge missed opportunity for Peloton. Congrats to iFit. Yeah. Like I am. I am. I’m pretty jealous as a Peloton member,

Speaker 2: because you gotta think the original pitch was Peloton and then they were like, not feeling it.

Yeah,

Speaker 4: yeah.

Speaker 2: And I get maybe they didn’t wanna leave instructor selection up to. A third party or a collective third party, but let’s be honest,

Speaker: it never is. It’s always executive producers at the bottom of every single one of those things. It’s always like the producers made these decisions, and even then

Speaker 2: you get a one year contract.

Yeah. And then if the person sucks, the one year contract was up. Right. You move on. But, uh, no, I, it’s airing on Amazon Prime. Mm-hmm. I think so. Yeah. Maybe that’s why they said no.

Speaker: Maybe they wanted, I mean, that’s fair. They wanted something bigger. Yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker: I don’t know, but I’m probably gonna watch it just [00:49:00] because I, I like shows like this.

Yeah, for

Speaker 2: sure.

Speaker: They’re great to watch while I, while I do other things.

Speaker 2: Tonal has issued their state of strength report as they do annually.

Speaker: Listen, I wish I could get into this in depth, but we are. Woefully over time. Yeah. So I’m not going to, but I am gonna say that the state of strength has a lot of great data in it, and the coolest part is that it comes from the time you spend on your tonal.

Mm-hmm. So this is, they have collected all of their users. And they see how people act on the machine, and then they come out with a state of strength. And so one highlight, for example, 90% of tonal users see strength improvements in less time. So in other words, people who are consistent but only train for 20 minutes or less, they saw a 17% gain in deadlift strength and an 18% in bench press strength.

As opposed. To those who hit performance plateaus while [00:50:00] doing longer workouts. That’s the kind of thing you see in here. And it’s like really fabulous data to help you make your plans for the next year.

Speaker 2: So I should work out less. Well, that’s what I’m hearing.

Speaker: Honestly, I don’t know if you can like, I feel like you don’t think it’s worth it when you do less, so I think you have,

Speaker 2: so you’re like you work out so little.

Yeah. I don’t think you could work out less. No, not at all, Tom.

Speaker: Not at all. Not what I’m saying. But anyway, check out this report. It’s really cool.

Speaker 2: And that link will be in the email if you sign up for it@theclipout.com. So you should stop right now and do that. Yes, you should. And while you stop and do that, we will stop for commercials.

Okay? Maybe. And in case there is one here. Coming up next, we got the TCO top five this week at Peloton, and we’re also gonna talk about the return of Crush Your Core. So join us, won’t you?

Speaker 2: It is time for the TCO top five. So many classes coming at you. What is [00:51:00] worth your time? Where should you start? It can be so confusing and overwhelming. We’ve boiled it down to five options. Any other classes. Would be a complete waste of your time and make you an abject failure and disappointment to your friends, family, and loved ones.

Speaker: I thought you were in a hurry.

Speaker 2: Number one, your favorite holiday ride.

Speaker: Yes. Uh, I still don’t understand why they did this on 12 one and the rest of the Michael Bule happens this week, but. Maybe it’s because Leanne is now out on baby leave and hopefully having her baby any day. Um, Larry Wellborn, however, took this ride with Leanne and he said that Leanne really leans into Christmas and combined with her pregnancy, she was beaming and so festive during the class and in great Christmas music, and it was just such fun.

Speaker 2: Number two, Greta dopp wasting no time. [00:52:00]

Speaker: She just zoomed right in there.

Speaker 2: Favorite yoga class?

Speaker: She, that is the first time we’ve ever had an instructor begin and end up on the top five. The first week they were here.

Speaker 2: Look at you, Greta. Making history. Making

Speaker: history. Okay. So it was her 30 minute premiere sculpt flow.

We’ve already talked about sculpt flow. Mm-hmm. Uh, and that was on 12 six. And Greta DOPs was. Nominated. Could not think of the word by Kathleen Arthur. She said it was a good mix of yoga, Pilates, lightweights, and light cardio. Greta had great energy and was so excited to be teaching. Congrats Greta, for making it to the TCO top five on your very first week.

Speaker 3: Uh, number three, your favorite row. Yes. Or if you’re British. Wow.

Speaker: It was taught by Alex K. Also on 12 six, Becky Gomez took this class in person. She said it was so fun, great playlist, and Alex was just as nice and funny in person as he appears on the screen. She was just excited to be there. Don’t blame me, Becky.

Speaker 2: Uh, number four, your favorite walk.

Speaker: Okay. So this was a two for one [00:53:00] taught by John Hosking and he paired up with new Australian guest instructor, uh, Tim Robards. Sarah Lester nominated this class and said the bromance was impressive and it felt like I was on a walk with friends. The class closed with a song called You’re The Voice by John Farnam.

It’s a great song that you hear a lot in Australia, but you don’t hear a lot in the United States. Hmm.

Speaker 2: And then, uh, number five. It. You are unst stackable. It’s a ride.

Speaker: It is. And it was taught by Christian Vanderbilt. It was a 45 minute real route road to Hana Symia. Cynthia Campbell nominated this ride and she said the ride almost took her out.

She explained she wanted to barf during the final two minutes. She enjoyed the ride because it was challenging. We hope you did not barf. That is

Speaker 2: we did the road to Hana.

Speaker: We did. It’s beautiful. We did not bike it.

Speaker 2: No. No

Speaker: one here will be surprised by that.

Speaker 2: No.

Speaker: Good Lord, though, imagine going up those hills.

Speaker 2: Oh, I know. Uh, taking a look at this week [00:54:00] at Peloton, we have all sorts of things for people. Well, we don’t, but Peloton does.

Speaker: Yeah. First up, we have the mix tape Yoga and Ride. So it’s gonna be, first there’s going to be a vibe and flow mix tape, and it’s gonna have, of course, that’s taught by Chelsea. Jen Sherman will be the special guest.

And then that same day, uh, there’s going to be a live class with Jen Sherman. We assume Chelsea will be part of it, but it doesn’t actually say so. You never know. We don’t know.

Speaker 2: We’ve got more live outdoor run club.

Speaker: We do, and this week is taught by Maddie. It’s a 20 minute outdoor run club, and it will be 10:30 AM Eastern.

Speaker 2: We have a 30 minute progressive push with Tunde,

Speaker: 30 minutes of progressive push on December 14th at 2:30 PM Eastern.

Speaker 2: And new benchmark strength classes.

Speaker: Yep. Five, 10 minute, 20 minute benchmark classes.

Taught by Ben Aldis, Rebecca Kennedy, Maddie Mamo, Robin Arza, and Katie Wong.

Speaker 2: And finally, Emma, love Wells Crush. Your [00:55:00] core has returned.

Speaker: It has. Now, I know we have talked about this program like 80,000 times, so I do have to say it is Crush Your Core three. The reason this is such a big deal is crush your core one and two.

Crushed the records. The, for the, first of all, Emma’s crushed the Core Crush Your Core program. Mm-hmm Was the first time classes had been taken by like 10,000 members in like the first week. Like it was insanely popular. Yeah. I did not say the numbers correctly ’cause I made them up, but you get the idea.

But it

Speaker 2: was a lot.

Speaker: And uh, and then the same thing happened with Crush Your Core Two. So people are very excited. Three is here. So take it, tell us all about it.

Speaker 2: And finally, we have one birthday this week. It belongs to Marcel Maher on December 12th.

Well, happy birthday, Marcel. Happy birthday. So that brings us to a close. Until next week. Where can people find you?

Speaker: People can find me on Facebook at facebook.com/crystal z O’Keefe. They can also find me on Blue Sky [00:56:00] Threads, Instagram and the Peloton leaderboard at clip Out Crystal.

Speaker 2: And you can find me on blue Sky and Threads, Tom O’Keefe Jr.

Or Facebook at facebook.com/tom O’Keefe. You can find the show online at facebook.com/the clip out. While you’re there, like the page, join the group. And you know what? If you’ve made it this far. You should entertain the idea of a Patreon subscription.

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So if you love it this much that you made it all the way to the bitter end, come on in. The water’s fine. We got more for you over at patreon.com/the clip out. So anyway, that’s it for this one. Thanks for tuning in, and until next time, keep peddling and rowing and running. Bye bye.

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