439: Behind the Mic: You Asked, We Answered
Behind the Mic: You Asked, I Answered
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- Vacation Mode Activated: Crystal and Tom discuss the rarity of taking a true break and how this episode was pre-recorded to keep the streak alive.
- Ask Me Anything:
- Top 3 Favorites: Crystal and Tom share their favorite TV shows, music, and movies, with a mix of nostalgia and current obsessions.
- Favorite Guests: From Andrea Barber to John Foley, the hosts reminisce about standout interviews and surprising moments.
- Behind-the-Scenes Stories: Hear about the chaos of interviewing Snooki, the drama surrounding Daniel McKenna’s departure, and the unexpected challenges of booking big-name guests.
- Peloton & Fitness Reflections:
- How Peloton has transformed Crystal’s fitness journey and inspired her personal training education.
- Tom’s Tonal journey and how the podcast indirectly influenced his health and fitness.
- The Best and Worst of Podcasting: Crystal and Tom reflect on the joys of creating something together and the challenges of staying consistent in the face of algorithms and expectations.
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clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Welcome to the Clip Out podcast, episode 4 39. This is Crystal O’Keefe.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: And this is Tom O’Keefe. So this week is gonna be different ’cause we are recording this to play while we are on vacation. So we’re not recording an episode while we’re on vacation for the first time in, what, eight years?
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Eight years. Yeah. I have decided [00:01:00] to take a major step and I’m not taking my computer with me at all, which is really scary. I have not taken, I have not, taken a computer on vacation in a decade at least. So this is new territory to me.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah, that it’s, nerve wracking, but there should be no reason we’re not planning to record. And this will be in the can to, drop while we’re out. But like we’ve recorded episodes Puerto Rico, in Alaska, in Hawaii,
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: At Disney World,
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: at Disney World, multiple times at Disney World.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: We have. So, and this is also gonna be different because we are doing an Ask Me Anything episode. So we had people submit questions, we’re not gonna read names. Because we wanna let people protect, pro protect their anonymity. But but we are going to be reading off questions. So I will start [00:02:00] with the first one.
I guess we could just go back and forth reading them, Tom, and then and when we we have a CO there. Yeah. And there’s a couple different places that we can read from. So I’m gonna read from my list first.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Okay.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: If I can find it. There it is. Okay. So this person says, what are your top five in each of these categories?
Movies, musics, music, and TV shows. Let’s just pick one, because otherwise it’ll be the whole episode of just this.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: is a lot
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: pick.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: How about, he said he, this person was a he and he said you could also narrow it down to your top three if you want.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Okay.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Okay.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: My top three, I guess, TV shows, I guess I’ll have to say I think number one I would probably put mash.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Oh yeah, that makes sense.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: [00:03:00] because especially ’cause I watched that so much as a kid, and I just, loved it as a kid. I read all the books. There are like 14 mash novels, believe it or not. It’s based on a novel.
But then when the show got popular, they started creating more. And so, they’re not very good. The first one’s fun, but they get pretty bad by the end. But so I, like I, I think Mash was my first real pop culture rabbit hole. Like I, parents bought me books about, the show and like, so that was my first one.
And then other shows after that, man that are my favorite. It’s so hard to say. I will say like, when we re-watch Barney Miller,
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: That was good.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: I like that show a lot. Like I, of those shows where I still like, I wonder what happened to those people after that. So Barney Miller’s pretty solid. And I’m trying to think of something new or something newer that maybe a lot of [00:04:00] people haven’t seen. Not necessarily greatest show of all time, but I thought was really good. That I don’t think gets a lot of love like it should. Was crazy Ex-girlfriend,
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Oh yeah, that was good.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: think Crazy Ex-girlfriend was like way smarter than I thought it was gonna be. And and really funny. And I just thought that show really worked, so.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: All right. Instead of having you do all three over and over again, I’m gonna jump in. Otherwise it’ll, I’ll get bored and we’ll have been like, Ugh.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: I could tell You’re already bored. You’re
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Well I know these things about you.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: me?
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Not with you. Okay. So I feel like TV shows for me that like, are my favorites are kind of based a little bit on nostalgia.
But I think currently my favorite show is the remake of Four Seasons. That show is so good. And then I will say the next show after that, is like so freaking good [00:05:00] is the medical drama that we watched last year.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Pit
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: The pit so, so good. But in my top three, I also have to round out with Gilmore Girls because that has always been a favorite of mine.
It’s so good. I’ve watched the whole thing and it gets bad, and then it gets good again. And it was a really nice watch with Sydnee. It was like very nostalgic for me.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: It’s funny, speaking of nostalgia, a show that I loved at the time and we are currently rewatching and it’s just an absolute slog is moonlighting and it pains me to say that I love that show so much when it was on. And like boy, they just really lose the thread and
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: I do.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: we have like four episodes left and it just feels like a battle.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Oh, and it’s Sunday. Are we gonna get to watch it today? Oh, no.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: it depends on how quickly I get outta work
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Okay. All right. Do you have, do you wanna name off your top three? I know one of them [00:06:00] actually. Yeah. For music.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: man, it’s so hard to pick music, but obviously number one, for me, a shock to no one that is a regular listener is of course the monkeys. It’s the band I’ve seen the most, that I’ve traveled the most for that I’ve, you know and it’s a lot to see that band the most because it’s not a band that goes out on tour once a year every year.
But I mean, I’ve probably seen them 20 times. So for a band that went out that sporadically, that’s a lot. After that I just keep landing on the ne the band that I’ve probably seen the most after that would be Roger Klein and the
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Ugh. Yeah.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Not necessarily a household name. If you know them at all, you probably know them as the refreshments.
They had a, an alt rock hit in, the mid nineties called Bandidos. It’s the, everybody knows the world is full of Stupid People song. They [00:07:00] also did the theme for
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: King of the hill.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Hill.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: But there’s no vocals in that. So but yeah, I really love Roger Klein and the Peacemakers. And then after that, I mean, I guess it’s not creative, but I would have to say The Beatles.
’cause that was also one of the first bands. The first album I ever owned was The Monkey’s Greatest Hits. The first album I ever bought was Sergeant Peppers. So
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah. So I had two outta three. I figured the monkeys and I figured the Beatles because that’s what you play the most. For me again, it kind of comes back to nostalgia I have seen, believe it or not, besides with you. Aerosmith the most times in my life. And they have like a special place in my heart because the get A Grip album came out when I was in high school.
And my, my best friend at the time, and I, we loved that album, [00:08:00] especially the song Crazy. And we played it all the time, like all the time. I know every single word. I know every single high note Stephen Tyler hits, and we got to see him in concert multiple times on that tour and the next tour. But Aerosmith is probably my top and then but I don’t really listen to them anymore.
And it’s really funny because I used to really love country music and now I don’t it’s like I hear a, guitar twin and it, used to make me feel like home. And now I’m like, oh. That’s terrible. And it’s not because of the twang itself. It’s what it represents. It there’s a, certain mindset that I grew up with that I didn’t know how dangerous it was.
And now when I hear that certain twang, I hear that dangerous mindset more than I hear anything. But I do have to say George Strait [00:09:00] best country singer of all times. And I’m so glad we got to go see him when he retired. That was,
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: show.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: it was a great show. And and then also I saw Travis Trit was the very first concert I ever saw.
I got yelled at by him because I kept wooing. I was a Woo girl. It was the very first concert I’ve ever been to. I was 13, of course I’m gonna woo. But yeah, I got yelled at by Travis Trt. So.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: it happens.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah, I wouldn’t say he’s one of my favorites. I would say my other current favorite, oh, it’s tough man. I have favorite songs, but I would say the person I listen to the most these days is Taylor Swift.
I, I, ’cause she just has so many great songs across every album. I, like songs on every album,
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: That makes sense and I can vouch for how much you listen.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: and I, don’t even know how to talk about movies, so I’m not even try to answer that because I really don’t have a favorite movie. I’m so picky about movies. [00:10:00] It’s really, as you know.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: yeah. I think my favorite movie is Paper Moon.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Oh, of course. Yeah,
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Paper Moon.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: it’s good.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: when I was a little kid. 10, but it’s it’s set in the Depression, but it was filmed in the early seventies, 1972. And, I, but. doesn’t have any music in it. All the music that’s in it is ambient noise of like, if they’re listening to the radio, then there’s a song on the radio.
So it’s all period music. So like, and it’s shot in black and white. So like when I saw it at 10, like I literally had no idea when this movie was from, it just happened to be on tv. sick and up and couldn’t sleep. And so I turned the TV on and and for whatever reason, every time I went in got Sick, that seemed to be the movie they were showing late at night. And so I kept seeing this movie, but I had no way of knowing what it was or what it was called. It was just this, you know, this weird little movie about con a con artist and his maybe daughter in the [00:11:00] Depression. And I was just like, but I don’t know what it is. And years later when, you know, when I was older, I was able to figure out what it was.
And I just, I love that movie so, so much.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: It holds up over time. I mean, I remember I was really skeptical when you had Brian and Sydney watch that movie with us, because I had already seen it at that point and I liked it. But boy, they were in it. They were in it,
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: They were so pulled into it. And I remember the St. Louis Film Critics Association asked me to do a special presentation of that where I gave a little speech about it and they did a q and a about it. And and it was interesting, the people and the audience that were completely unfamiliar with the movie, which surprised me because this is a film festival.
This was directed by Peter Bogdanovich, who’s a known director at Stars Ryan and Tatum O’Neill, you know, people who are famous, that you don’t have to be a major film nerd to know who these people are. And so I was really surprised by. By how nobody seemed to really have been familiar with the movie going in, and [00:12:00] they were just like, oh, let’s see what this is. And I thought it was interesting how many people were like, this movie has a much more modern sensibility than I would’ve thought. And I could see this being released as just like a little art house film today and really resonating with people. And I think that’s 100% true.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: I agree. I definitely agree. Yeah.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: off my stuff
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Okay.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: and go into other, like, but there’s probably more
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Okay.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: stuff.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: You pick a question. This time
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Okay. Who’s been your favorite guest so far? And did anyone totally surprise you during an interview?
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: I, gosh, you know what? I think my favorite interview was Andrea Barber because she surprised me so much. I was such a fan girl, and we’ve interviewed some people that I was huge fans of, and I was really nervous. But I think that none of them made me feel as at ease as Andrea Barber did. Like, she didn’t make me feel [00:13:00] little.
She, was, she made me feel like she was in on it with us. And and I loved how much she loved Peloton. She’s clearly a person who like whatever she’s doing in her life, she does with all of her heart. And and of course she was hilarious and she thought you were funny. And of course. Because you are, and I love when other people the way I do.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah I, was kind of in the zone that day. I was,
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: You were,
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: shit. Yeah I was, killing it.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: who’s your favorite?
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: I don’t know. I was gonna say Andrea Barber.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Oh,
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: And you stole it.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: I’m sorry. Not
Room. So I couldn’t have come up with that off the top of your head if I had to.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: But but yeah, she was just so delightful and so like, easy to work with and gave us so much of her time and has a couple on a couple other occasions as well.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: that was super, super nice. To think after that. [00:14:00] Well, I have to say that like I always thought it was really great that Matt Wiler agreed to be on our show when we did not exist.
He’s literally our first guest
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Such a special, that was such a special moment, you know, that really.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: and we went about asking him to be on the show in completely the wrong way
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Didn’t know, like it wasn’t a purpose. We just didn’t know.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: He was so new he didn’t know. ’cause he got his hand slapped by Peloton too, where they were like don’t, do that. And so but yeah, that he was so gracious to take the time out when, like I said, when we were literally like, we are just starting this thing, would you be on the show? And that we had absolutely no track record of any kind, he could have been signing up for God knows what and and that he took his time to do that. So if you’re looking for that episode, it’s really easy. Remember it’s episode one
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: two. Didn’t we break?
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah, we did break it up into two [00:15:00] because he had like a whole thing about his new clothing line that was coming out. It was the first time Peloton ever released bibs for riding a bike that was brand new. And then also we had a whole episode about power zone training because nobody, he was brand new to the company, so nobody really understood what the hell it was yet.
And so we talked about both of those things. I will also say when we talked to Jen Sherman, I was definitely fangirling that day too.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yes
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: We had computer issues and she was very patient. But I loved hearing her her stories about like when she first reached out to John Foley, that was the first time I had, I had heard that story.
’cause it was so early on in the podcast. And so that was the first time I had heard how she, was just like, yeah I’m, gonna go for this. And just reached out and emailed John Foley and was like, I need to be your employee. And that was, really cool. As far as the people that make up the community, I tell you what, it [00:16:00] is hard to pick one person.
I mean, special interviews that come to mind are, you know Howie because.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Howie. Yeah.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: He’s Howie, you know?
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: and, but there’s so many. The Fred and his wife Mrs. Fred Jonathan, Brad Lowe. I mean, honestly, probably all of the people that we interviewed from the JSS tribe, Lisa Getty Yaya Christina ero and Steven Pitts.
There, there were so many people that I saw on the leaderboard every day, especially in that first like 100 people that were just so special. Lori Bein comes to mind. What a wonderful story. She’s just so inspirational. She’s, tackled so much in her life, and every once in a while I get a message from [00:17:00] her and she will share, you know the, magic of the interview that we did with her and how it’s still resonating today with people.
And that’s really cool. That’s really cool. Do you have any others from the community at large?
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: You know, the other one I was thinking was when we got to interview John Foley
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Oh, that was so special.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: They asked us to come in and host the HRI thing, and we interviewed him live on stage and he was so great to work with, and I thought it was great that were so trying. We had that call beforehand.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yes.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: still trying to micromanage what we did, and they were like, we had listeners submit questions and then they pre-approved the questions and they were like, do not deviate from the pre-approved questions. And John Foley stepped in. He was like, no, absolutely not. Don’t put limits on them.
He’s like, I, we asked the clip out to come in. We want the clip out to be the clip out. He’s like, if Tom [00:18:00] wants to gimme shit, then Tom needs to gimme shit. That’s, what the clip out is here for.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: And that weekend we got to do a tour of the Peloton facility and like the office building. And it was so cool to see where everybody worked. I felt so incredibly special. And it was also the first time that like we had been to an HRI, like after we had started the podcast and a lot of people knew who we were.
So when we went into the hotel, it was really cool because people would hear our voices and recognize us. Yeah, they would hear me laughing usually is what happened. And and it was so cool to meet so many people from. All over the world, you know, there were people from so many countries there and it was so cool to meet JV and just all the people in the company, and it was just such a special time, such a really, special time.
And when you would go to [00:19:00] 23rd Street at the time they let anybody in there and you could go and just hang out on the couch until the next class. And so, so many people I met, you know, because I would just hang out. We’d hang out in the lobby and then there would be like, the classes would change and a new bunch of people would come in and you’d be talking to them, and then another class would start and that’s back when classes started every hour on the hour.
So, you know it was just so special. And like, you’d see the instructor from across the room and they would recognize you and you’d be like, hi. And it was just, it was a love fest. It was a complete love fest. And
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: was
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: It was really cool.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah. So what do you got next?
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Oh, sorry, I was just telling stories. Okay, so let’s see here.
This is funny. Do you think you’re gonna make it to episode 500 of the clip out? I don’t know the answer to that. I will say, it [00:20:00] depends on the day how I’m feeling. And I will also say that we did recently get a new
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: advertiser.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Advertiser. Yes, thank you, sponsor for the show. And they did sign up for all of 2026.
Now that doesn’t mean we’re locked in because if we wanted to cancel, we would just cancel early. It’s like, it’s not like money is exchanged upfront. They, bill, we bill based on, you know, the fact that we actually showed up and had listeners. So that doesn’t mean that we’d have to stay, but it does indicate that there’s still interest from a sponsor standpoint, which is important.
You know, and I don’t, I like it when it’s, it feels like I’m still part of the community, but the community is so splintered now that it doesn’t feel the same as it used to feel,
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: That’s just a really hard place to be.[00:21:00]
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah, for sure. I’ll also say as the show has matured also costs a lot more money.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah. Boy, that’s true.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: like just, you know, just so it’s like if it’s not generating revenue than what’s we’re going out of pocket. And it used to be going out of pocket was a few hundred bucks and like now with where we’re at and all the different moving parts, the web hosting and the newsletter and, the, you know,
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: The articles. The articles too.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah. Like like it’s, I mean it, is no longer just a few hundred dollars, which is also why, you know, why we push Patreon. ’cause it’s we all, we both have day jobs for a reason, you know,
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah. Yeah. And to be transparent our, Patreon and the money that we spend is real close to kind of even out, like it’s, real close to break even. And so to, to your point, like if it were to swing one direction or the other, it’s like, well then it’s probably [00:22:00]not worth it anymore.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: And I mean.
It’s also like it’s not as neat anymore. You know, it used to feel like when, whenever I saw people in the leaderboard, it was the same people over and over again. And I felt like I was part of that community. And now the leaderboard is so big and in so many places, you know, the bike, the row, the tread I love that we have all that content, but it also means that like everybody’s doing their own thing in different places.
And so it doesn’t feel like the community gathers in the same way. And I feel like I would probably feel more connected to the community if we did live on the East Coast and we could be involved in events that happen and like see people more often. But being in the middle of the country and, you know, having to make it into this big trip every time we go it’s just, different than it used to be, you know?
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: And [00:23:00] if we’re gonna move to the East Coast, we’re gonna need a lot more people in the Patreon.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah. Yeah. Definitely, So
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: So the next one I have is how do you decide what to cover each episode? Do you go off what’s trending into the community or just what you find, what you just interest you personally that week?
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: It used to be, it used to be that I would pick everything based on what interested me. That was before we had the tipster. That was before we had a whole team of people helping gather the details. And whenever I first started doing this with, you, Tom it wasn’t such a big deal because it was small
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Right.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: it’s grown into this huge thing.
There are instructors that I gravitate toward and there are instructors I don’t gravitate toward. So I was missing chunks of the instructors that I don’t gravitate toward. So [00:24:00] having the Tipster community has been very helpful. So the way that it works is literally every day we have a whole group of people who are looking at social media.
They would be looking at social media either way,
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Right.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: When they find something that’s new to them, they drop it in a Slack channel and in that Slack channel. Then after a week, like right when I’m building the episode, I go through and I pull everything that looks interesting. Like I don’t post every single thing.
Like, like if Brittany Allen has a new drop, I don’t. Put that in because she has a lot of new drops and she’s not necessarily part of p Peloton and we’re trying to keep the episodes shorter and tighter So it’s not that I don’t care about Brittany Allen, but I’m trying to like be mass appeal whenever we choose that.
And then once we do that, I would go through and I have this huge list and then I break it down into what I think should go in the bonus and what I think should go in the main. And then Tom, you go through and do it again.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah. [00:25:00] I you. Pick all the things we’ll talk about, and then I sort them into what I think is order of importance or or by various topics like, oh, this is an instructor story, this is a general Peloton story, you know, and some of that’s pretty obvious. And then now that we have a bonus episode then I also will sometimes pull things like if I think the show’s running a little long, I’ll pull it out and then move it to bonus. And the way that happens is Crystal will always say, just pull out whatever you think doesn’t make sense and put it in bonus. And then when we record the bonus episode, she’ll be like, why didn’t you put this in the main episode?
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Well sometimes it’s like there’s like a reason I put it in there and it’s an important one to me, it feels important, you know, like an instructor, I don’t know, doing something specific and like, like, like Ash Pryor this week got moved to bonus.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: She was moved a bonus but the fact that she’s gonna be doing Pilates should have been on the [00:26:00] main, to me.
’cause that’s big news. But like you didn’t get it because you’re not on the platform. And I didn’t catch it until we were recording. It was like, whoops. Oops. A doodle.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: But yeah, so but yeah, so the but yeah, I think at the beginning, one, one there was a lot less news at the beginning
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: lot fewer places that you had to keep an eye on.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: And instructors to keep an eye on.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: And so even if there was an instructor that wasn’t necessarily your jam, like you could still keep an eye on it because there were only like 12.
Right. And so now to keep track of what, 58?
Yeah. That’s a lot harder.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Or something.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah. So like it, that’s a lot harder for one person to keep track of all the places. So like that’s the one of the things that’s super helpful about the Tipsters and the help helper bees ’cause they all have their own instructors that they prefer and so they will snag things that maybe wouldn’t pop up [00:27:00] in your radar.
Especially now that we’re established, you have a lot of people throwing things at you and so that can be
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: too.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: And I still get that people still and I don’t want people to stop until we stop the show. Then you can feel free to stop.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: didn’t
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: But like I love that people send me stuff and they’re like, did you know about this? Because sometimes things break and like maybe the helper bees and the tipster aren’t online yet.
You know that’ll happen. It’ll happen in the middle of the night or it’ll be something that, like, it was an instructor nobody was covering. It’s not like,
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: not like we’re like, okay, you cover these instructors and I’ll cover these. And we tried that at the beginning. It didn’t work. It didn’t work.
It was too structured. People just follow who they wanna follow and it kind of just works itself out over time.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah, for sure. Well, coming up after this, we will have more questions. We will talk about any funny or behind the scenes stories that we might want to share and crystal has questions on her list that I [00:28:00] can’t see, so she will have those. So stick around.
We are back. And I, was gonna like reset, but like I said, we don’t reset. It’s not a radio show, it’s a podcast. You know
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Right.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: We’re on vacation. So this week we’re just doing this, and the next week we’ll be back to normal. So funnier behind the scenes stories that people haven’t heard before or maybe haven’t heard in a while.
Do you have any
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: The one that pops into my head is right off the bat is the one where we, it got to interview Snooki.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: That’s exact same what I
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Okay. Okay. I’ve got a different one then. I’ve got a different one. We were going to interview what’s the doctor? We talked to him about the p. The peeing. So just King’s wife peed on,
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: we, it was that doctor, we talked to Dan Savage.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Savage.
Thank you. Sorry, he’s not a doctor, but it was Dr. Like, ’cause he’s giving advice. So anyway, Dan Savage, we were talking we were trying to communicate with Dan Savage [00:29:00] and it turned into such a cluster because he, for whatever reason, we would email him and it would go, he would email us back and then it would go to spam.
We’ve never had that happen before. And I don’t know if it’s because he has a radio show and it was coming from his radio show address or what.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: what I think was happening, so it was when there was a story not to rehash or embarrass people, but just King’s wife is in a band and she did a thing where she urinated on someone on stage. And so we reached out to Dan Savage to talk about that. Dan Savage hosts a very famous podcast called Savage Love. But sex advice and just about the idea of like that is a fetish, is this was, this a bridge too far, blah, blah, blah. And so I just totally emailed the generic likeSavage@savagelove.com or whatever their email address is. And, to my surprise, not only did I [00:30:00] get an answer, but I got an answer from Dan Savage, which I would’ve thought, this guy’s a, yeah, I would’ve thought this dude’s got people for that.
He’s not actually monitoring this account. I mean, he has this successful article that he’s been writing for advice column that he’s been writing for, I mean, 25, 30 years if not longer. And he’s got a super successful podcast. He’s on tv. He’s a New York Times bestselling author. I’m like, he’s gotta have a crew of people, right? Sure enough he answered me, but for whatever reason, it kept going to my spam. And I think the reason was at the time he was in Germany. And so I think it was because he was emailing from Germany that it flagged it as some weird foreign thing and kept sending into my spam, even though I was replying to it.
I was marketing it as not spam. It happened over and over again. then he had agreed to come on and record, but I never got [00:31:00] it. And I happened to check my spam and I see the reply and then I see another message from him that’s like, Hey, I’m at my computer. Are we doing this? And I’m at work.
And so I was like.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Not just, were you at work? I was at a doctor’s appointment. I.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: right. Ah, yeah. And I was like, I’m sorry, this went to my spam again. I’m at work. I can be home and me 20 minutes and I hauled ass home. And like, and luckily he was like the patient, most patient, nicest guy in the world super, chill about the whole thing. I was, we were just profusely and and, but he was super nice about it and totally understanding it was he was, and it was a great conversation.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: It was, And I learned a lot about liquids that people enjoy during [00:32:00] sex. Like I didn’t know that. Thank you for performing.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: we, I think we also kinda changed his mind in a little bit. ’cause at first he was like, this isn’t a big deal. And I was like, okay. But this wasn’t all ages show. And there were kids
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: And then he was like, oh,
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: was like, okay, yeah. Like that’s not a good look. Like Yeah.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: it’s the all ages show that Repart, that was really the issue. Like it’s two consenting adults. And lots of people said that. And I agree with that. Absolutely.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: It’s not my thing, but like, whatever.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: yeah. I but anyway, another behind the scenes time that comes to mind is Daniel McKenna. So,
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: yeah,
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: so I, we had several people had noticed when Daniel McKenna was fired because he was fired, he did not quit, he was fired.
That he was suddenly not showing up. Like there would be a class and then it would be canceled last minute. And there was lots of talk, like I was getting messages, like pretty [00:33:00] constantly about it. And then one night, in the middle of the night, I got a message that showed me a screenshot that was a, it was a screenshot from.
Pelotons internal teams. So it’s like Slack, but teams Microsoft teams. And it showed like, it, it was a log that said that like, as a person leaves, there’s clearly like a set of IT rules that are followed. One of those rules that they follow is to delete their username. The log that I got was simply removing him from the system, which would only occur if he no longer worked there.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: if you’re not there.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: So we broke that news and the world blew up. Like I
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: word.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: have never been dragged like that before or since.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: people were so mad at me. For telling the truth. Like they, they thought that I was lying. First of all. There, there was a camp that thought I was lying. [00:34:00] There was a camp that thought I was telling the truth, but it was illegal.
I got a lot of that. In fact, there was a group of women in the UK that threatened to, like, they were going to take me to court over this whole thing. I will say in the UK the libel laws are very different and so
this is all in the US so you’re gonna have to suck it ladies.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah. But like I think they thought that like you’ve libeled him in the, and that you can’t do that. And I’m like, well, but the best defense for libel is the truth.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Right? And it and it was the truth. And then things got really crazy because Peloton reached out. And this first, I think this is the first time I’ve ever told the story,
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: I
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: but
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: so. Yeah.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: The first time I’ve ever told the story on air, I have definitely told individuals this story. We were contacted by Peloton.
They had a new communications person there at the time, and they were really, upset. Like pers they had, they, they had all of the [00:35:00] facts in front of them and they felt that Daniel McKenna was making it look like Peloton had done a lot of bad things. And this person knew for a fact that they didn’t.
And they had gotten emails from people in the community and they took one of those emails and they asked me to send it out with Pelotons response. Like they asked me to do that, and they did ask me to black it out. Now. I am not a computer genius. I was sitting in a movie theater when I did this. I messed up, like I only used a black highlighter to black it out.
I didn’t know you could reverse the image and see who it was. So this person then was told their email was used, which was never my intention to reveal their identity. And then that person got real mad and that person Peloton stood behind me and they talked to that person directly and they [00:36:00] fixed all of that.
That person was still very mad at me though. And I still had people telling me that I was wrong. Like they did not believe the information. They thought I was making this up and I was not allowed at the time to say, you know, Peloton gave me this. I wasn’t allowed. I’m probably not allowed now, but that person doesn’t work there anymore.
None of the people involved in this work there anymore.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: and so yeah, I will say this every single person that I have talked to at Peloton remains steadfast that Daniel McKenna was the one who did wrong. They have never come right out and said exactly what he did, but I think it was only second to Oliver Lee level of bad
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Oof.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: they were so upset over whatever it is that he did.
And they did not take kindly to him trying to switch it up and make it all about Peloton and make it [00:37:00] Pelotons fault.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah. Real quick the, Snooky story. So we had Snooky on which we, that’s another one. We were like, couldn’t believe they said yes. And and it was an also another one that we had to record in the middle of the day. ’cause it’s like, you’re gonna do that on Snooky schedule.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Right, you are SN says two 15, we’ll be there at two 15.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: And we were there and ready to go.
And to this day we do not understand what happened,
It put her in one Zoom room and us in another, and we’re sitting there trying to figure out what’s going on, and we finally get like a message from her that’s like, are you doing this or
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: No, it wasn’t a message from her. I got a notification she had logged in to the room that I had started, but it wasn’t the room we were in.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: And I was like, oh my God. So I take that link and like we re-log in and she was mad.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: was not happy,
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Who
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: which I
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: I,
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: her.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: no, I.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: little, we’re this little [00:38:00] dog and pony show and she’s doing us a favor. And then per, from her perception, we are not even on time. And and so like if you go back and watch that interview which we ran twice ’cause we used it. I reused it the week you got hit by the car.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah,
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: ’cause we didn’t have an interview in the can. So like I, I recycled it that week. But at the beginning of that interview, she is very like,
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: quiet, like clipped, with your answers.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: the end I feel like she came around, but at the beginning she was very much like, you two are a waste of my effing time. And like,
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: I was so flustered after that. Like, I, I could I, didn’t even hit record correctly. I was so upset. We ended up being able to use it because we have thank God redundancies,
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: we have like three redundancies because we have had to rerecord things. And so we have, and so like, like when we switched rooms, you didn’t hit record on the new room. [00:39:00] But luckily because the audio on that episode also isn’t the greatest, and that’s because we’re using one of our redundancies. ’cause like there ain’t no way she was gonna come back and do it a second time.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: No.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: blame her. So like yeah, that was woof.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah, that almost, it almost didn’t happen. It almost didn’t happen. But I am a huge fan of Snookie and her, I think she’s really funny. I love her on Jersey Shore. And I also really like that she’s into Peloton. She just posted a picture this week of her like getting back into working out and she had a Peloton tread right in front of her that I could see.
So yeah, maybe she’d come back. Ha She’s like, you get one.
Yeah. You got one. You got one. Get greedy.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: So although well, I, with jw, I think we know has a Peloton
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: She does. We have not been successful with that. And Tried
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: and Vinny has a Peloton and a [00:40:00] tonal.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: and a tonal and he turned us down Hard. Hard. Like I remember that one came back quick and it was like, oh,
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: At least we got an answer. A
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: that’s true. That’s true. A lot of, celebrities, people are always like, you should interview this person. And I just wanna say, I wish it were that easy.
Like we’re flattered that you think we could just make a phone
we don’t have that juice.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Al Roker or
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: yeah. I wish, yeah. It very rarely do these things work out, but
It’s a pleasure when they do. And it’s, very special, but very rare. Okay. What do you got next?
So how do you keep engaged with Peloton, which was your catalyst, and then balance it with your personal training, education and the need for more directed and purposeful training versus just doing a cycle slash workout and logging out?
I think this is such a great question because it’s somebody who clearly, actually listens to what, we say, not just listens for like us being silly, but [00:41:00] also like listens to my journey Yeah.
being. With Peloton, they’ve listened for a long time, very clearly. It is, a very difficult balance because I don’t feel like Peloton does a great job of helping you level up to the next level there.
Yes, power zone training absolutely will make you stronger and better on the bike, but what do you do with it once you’re there? And you would, pretty much, your option is to do a race and bike racing is just not gonna be for me probably ever because I get hit by a car and going out on roads is terrifying to me.
Now, I can handle the running, but I can’t handle the biking. So part of the way that I balance that honestly, is with tonal because tonal allows me to progress with strength and then I use Peloton to progress. What I need with running. Usually it’s training for some kind of race that I’m doing.
I use [00:42:00] what they have, but I use it for me. So, for example, whenever I first started getting into sprint interval training, they had nothing on the platform that was even remotely close to it. So what I would do is I’d take an endurance run. And I would do my own intervals or I would do an endurance bike ride and I would do my own intervals.
And that works really well for me because you can just have a timer on your phone. There’s actually apps out there people have told me about where you can use them and they will set the intervals for you and remind you. That works great. And I also have really found that I really enjoy running outdoors.
That is real. Like it, I feel good being outside. I didn’t, I never realized how much I enjoy running outside until I didn’t run outside. And then it kind of drove me freaking crazy. And so I think those two things, but I always feel like there’s people who want to do more with their workouts and they have no idea what to do.
And I would love to educate them, like not in a way [00:43:00] that’s like. Give me money way, but like in a way that like helps people know how to get to the next level because working out is great. Like if all, if quote unquote, all you’re doing is just working out to, to live longer and stay alive. Great.
Like, that’s awesome. I’m so glad you’re moving. Yeah. That is fantastic. But if you ever want to take it to like, I like this but I wanna get stronger, or, I like this, but I wanna get faster. Or, I like this, but I wanna do more. That’s where you need some help in my opinion. And I love working with people on that.
Like that is something I miss from my job at MedPro. And I really enjoyed helping people with that. That’s a really cool part of what I’ve learned. So.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Awesome. Well, coming up after this, we’re gonna take another quick break and then we’re gonna do some quick hits before we wrap up, or as quick as we hit things. We all know of us are very quick when it comes to speed or talking, so stick [00:44:00] around.
Okay, we are back. So I guess let’s start with if you could ride with any instructor past or present, who would it be and why?
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Ride with, does it have to be ride?
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Not necessarily, I will amend their question to just be, take a class with.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Okay. Honestly, I would take any class with, Mariana Fernandez the, woman is so sincere when you take a class with her and she includes every single person, even when I don’t like them. And she is like, she’s so good to people in her class and it’s sincere. The sincerity there is so. It’s inspiring.
Like I, there, she just is special. She’s a special person. And if it weren’t Mariana, then I would probably say Suzy Chan, because I just love Suzy Chan. She’s so funny. Yeah, that’s probably what I do. There’s others I could keep going, but I’ll stop.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Okay. Yeah, they said one and you
Suddenly [00:45:00] it’s already not following the rules. So,
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: I know. I.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: what’s one Peloton feature class type or community group that you think doesn’t get enough love?
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: I, would say probably the, positive Peloton page, just because they started, because it’s so toxic over on the OPP,
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: and they’re not the most knowledgeable about Peloton Group that I’ve ever, like, there’s some groups that like, they know everything. They know the history, they know every single detail about every instructor, you know and, this group has some of that.
But what, I think their magic is that it’s more like the OPP was back in the day where they’ll ask a question that most people already know the answer to, but they don’t get jumped all over.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Right.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: And I think that’s, pretty cool.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah. And we try to keep the clip out group that way.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: We do,
I will kick people out when they get real shitty.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah, you have, you’ve, there’s been lots of people you’ve kicked out or blocked because they just got so douchey. So [00:46:00] you have one that you think doesn’t get. You look so caught off guard.
The clip out group doesn’t get enough love. That’s, the one,
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Okay? Okay.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Has hosting the podcast changed the way you approach your workouts or fitness?
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Oh yeah. Peloton has literally changed my life, like as much as they sometimes get on my nerves or do things that I don’t agree with. You know, they should run the company according to me. I’m joking. The thing is that it started, it was a catalyst that literally started everything changing in my life.
Like, I have never stuck with exercise on a regular basis before Peloton. And, it literally removes every barrier that I personally had because I could work out at home and I was engaged and I had fun doing it, and I felt [00:47:00] good. So that’s the first thing. But then that led. Two tonal. And that led to me getting my personal trainer certificate.
And that led to me learning about me pro. That led to me learning about nutrition. That led to me learning about perimenopause and menopause and Stacy Sims. And that led to me learning how to lift heavy and why, our bodies change and what it’s doing. That’s in every aspect of our life has changed because of this podcast.
Every single aspect. And in, in a positive way. In a positive way.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: for sure. Wait, What about you?
what’s that?
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Well, what has, being the host changed your fitness or nutrition routine, Tom,
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Nah, nah, I,
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: whatever.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: yeah, I mean, obviously like I am you know, even though I [00:48:00] still have never used Peloton if it wasn’t for Peloton, I would not have a tonal. We would, you know, tonal, they were kind enough to, give us that tonal for promotional purposes. And and I think that was worth their while. I feel like we sold quite a few tonals. And but you know I, started futzing around with that thing and I still use it to this day. My strength score just hit 1200, which is like, it was like 400 when I started. So and then when Met Pro came on board as a client, and I was like, well, and they wanted to have me eat on their plan.
And even though you don’t work at Met Pro anymore, I’m not technically a, client. I’m still eating in that manner. And that this is the longest I’ve been below 200 in my adult life. And so again, even though it’s odd to [00:49:00] say even though I’ve never used Peloton, were it not for Peloton, I wouldn’t have done all the other things.
So there’s that.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: And I will never forget when you told Dr. Jen that you had made a secret. Oh my God, that was so amazing. That was,
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: was flabbergasted.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: she was, and we wouldn’t have met Dr. Jen. We wouldn’t have met Dr. Jen. And like, I consider her a real genuine close friend, and I share news with her and vice versa. And there’s so many, people I could point to like that, like Christina Sandifer and Nick, the entire tipster group, the entire helper be community like, I wouldn’t have, I wouldn’t have gotten to have any of those friendships had it not been for Peloton.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: You know, it’s funny on the, on real spoilers this week we had a guy on from a, podcast, his name’s Pa Patrick, and he was talking about the clip out Inad, or the real spoilers inadvertently helped him meet Drew Barrymore. I remember [00:50:00] the story.
a story on the episode about how he’s like a huge Drew Barrymore fan.
He had a chance to meet her and he kind of chickened out and he told the story and then it kind of circulated in the Drew Barrymore camp. He ended up getting to meet her. And so we were talking about famous guests that we’ve had on the show, and I was rattling off, you know, Snooky, Chris Hansen, Andrea Barber, Jody Sweeten, and it was like, I totally forgot Dr.
Gin because we talked to her so much in real life that like, I stopped thinking of her as famous
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yep.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: And I was like, oh wait, I need to say Dr. Gin in case there’s any clip out listeners checking out this episode. And they were like, wow. He didn’t say Dr. Gin like, is something wrong? And it was because I don’t even think of her in that way because we’ve, talked so much to her that like it, it’s like that part’s completely gone, you know, which is kind of neat.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: It is.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: so last question
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: last one.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: wrap up.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Okay.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: What is the best part of doing the clip out? What is the worst part of doing the clip out?[00:51:00]
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: The best part is all the stuff we just covered. Like Yeah.
I, there, there are things I never thought I would get to do. Like, like when we went to Catalina and I ate a scorpion, that was terrible. But the rest of that trip was so cool. That was so fun. And that all happened because of the clip out. That never would’ve occurred.
We have gotten chances to try things like mattresses and drinks and stuff. I’ve literally, I know people probably are like yeah, you’re, you know, you’re just, you know, spouting
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Schilling
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: sales stuff. But like I still use, so many things that we have, talked about on the show to this day.
And I use them every single day
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: things that no longer advertise.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Athletic Greens, like Yeah, like there’s lots of things that, that they’re not advertisers anymore, but we’re, I’m still using Met Pro, even though I’m not technically using Met Pro, I’m still using the tools they gave me. Right. So,
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: exactly. So being [00:52:00] exposed to things that in our very like tiny world here in the middle of the United States, which we just don’t get exposed to a lot of things that, that.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: COVID.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: That has been amazing. The hardest, the worst part about it is that it, at some point it takes over. It did take over and like, part of the reason that I took the job at Met Pro was so I could work from home.
And part of that was because COVID was happening. But also part of that was because we were getting interviews like snooky and I couldn’t have a real job where it was eight to five in an office because I had a chance to interview Snooky and I couldn’t leave. And the job I had before that was like super buttoned up.
Like it was eight to five on the dot, you had to be in your chair. And that, that whole thing like, was really cool that it was taking over, but it also took over. And I, [00:53:00] I. I think it says a lot when I haven’t taken a vacation without my computer in eight years. I think it says a lot when we haven’t not recorded an episode, and I know lots of people tell us like, just don’t record the episode.
I know you guys as listeners wouldn’t be upset. I know that and I appreciate you so much. We both appreciate you so much. But the thing is, when you do have advertisers, they expect it and there’s this stupid thing called an algorithm. And if you don’t post, like it slows things down and that can really hurt.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: you gotta feed the beast,
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: You have to constantly feed the beast. It’s, that constantly feeding the beast and feeling like I have to, that sucks. Like it’s, I want, when I started this, it was just so fun and exciting and there have been so many of those fun and exciting moments, but there are also moments where it’s like, I don’t feel like it, I’m having a bad day.
I have cramps. I feel fat. I’ve, I didn’t put any makeup on. I stopped with the makeup. I just don’t even care anymore. But like, like there are days that like, [00:54:00] I don’t want to, and I still have to, you know, if, because I want it to exist, I want
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: You might not want to record in that moment, but you want to still do it in the big picture, so you have to power through in that moment. ’cause you can’t just be like, well, it’ll be three days late this week. That’s just not the way it
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: If you do that, if you let yourself go down that road and you taught me this it will just, you will just stop doing it. And we would’ve stopped doing it if I had taken that attitude toward it in, the beginning, for sure. Do you have any, do you have any, do you have your favorite and least favorite things?
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: I
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: I.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: the best part is that it’s something that you and I created together that you know, like it’s a second marriage for both of us. We’ve met, both met later in life, so we didn’t get to produce things together like normal married couples like children. And so this in a way, is our child, right? And it’s a perfect blending our two [00:55:00] personalities, right? Because you would’ve never done a podcast on your own, and I would’ve never talked about fitness on my own. And so it is a perfect marriage, both literally and figuratively. Of, of the, of us, right? Like it’s like I don’t think it would’ve ever gotten to the level it did without you.
’cause it’s your organizational skills that keep it on track and do all the social media management. And I’m more like big picture and then I sit down once a week and make dick jokes. And so but you’re doing the heavy lifting. I’ve never made any secret about that. And so so yeah I, really think the best part of it is that it is uniquely us.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Very nicely said. You’re so sweet. You’re so sweet. You do
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: well, I’m sure we’ll edit all this out in post,
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: me tear up a little. What’s your least favorite?
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: When people steal our shit.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Oh God. Oh [00:56:00] yeah.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yep.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: yeah. When people steal our shit and pretend like we don’t exist. Like that’s that is, yeah. I don’t like that.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: I don’t like that either.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah. So anyway, you’ve sat through this entire episode, hopefully we didn’t bore you.
I know it’s not what we typically do, but we figured after eight years we deserved a vacation. And so that’s where we are right now on a cruise ship. Probably a little drunk Yeah, we stay that way for a whole week. It’s great. I love it.
In a, healthy way
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah. Yeah.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: almost never drank
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: Never, it’s like never,
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: Yeah. Like for real, Like there’s been a bottle of rum in the fridge for like two years, like,
I think longer than that. I think I bought it during
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: you know. You did. It was when Brian brought Kylie over for Christmas.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: So
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: It’s four five.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: it’s like four years old. Like I, rarely drink and but when I do, it’s on. I always [00:57:00] say, I have two settings. Billy Graham or Billy Carter. Now you have to be over 50 to get that, but but if you are over 50, that’s a really funny joke. But, also I benefit from the fact that I am a happy drunk.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: You are. Woo. But when you tell somebody off when you’re drunk, can you, there are no holds barred. None.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: off when I was drunk?
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: I It’s just like you say jokes and, but they are like super cutting. Like, they’re like, you get a little like you, you don’t hold back as much when you’re drunk.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: oh. Good thing. We’re still, okay though,
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: We’re still just fine.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: phew.
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: You’ve never said anything to me at all. In a bad way. I’ve only had fun. I’ve only had fun with you.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: because I’m also a dirty drunk. On that note. that note, we’ll save that for the bonus. Yeah. You wanna hear the [00:58:00] raunchy stuff? It’s over there, you guys. $5 a
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: We are not gonna have a bonus this week though, guys,
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: but
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: so
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: we’ve already told them that, but yeah, there’s no bonus this week ’cause we are, in international water, so anyway. Until next time. Where can people find you?
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: people can find me on Facebook at facebook.com/crystal dokey, they can find me on Threads and Blue Sky and Instagram and the Peloton
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: And you can find me on Threads in Blue Sky at Tom O’Keefe Jr. Or on Facebook at facebook.com/tom O’Keefe. Of course, find the show online in all the places you know, and of, and then of course, don’t forget our patreon, patreon.com/clip out. Five bucks a month, all sorts of bonus content ad free episodes. else? Oh, ear early episodes. And it helps fun seeing like this had this fancy like NFL sideline headphones, and is like, this was like $400
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: we take it [00:59:00] everywhere we’ve taken on every trip we’ve done except this one.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: We have two of them. So like a, like that. Those are the things that I think a lot of people don’t even think about that like, this shouldn’t dream.
So anyway and if you, have the means, that’s great. And if not, we’d
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: That’s okay. We appreciate you listening.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: But but it’s not funding our vacations. It’s funding
clipoutcrystal–she-her-_1_11-09-2025_130937: we do not fund our vacations.
Tom OKeefe_1_11-09-2025_130937: So so anyway thanks for tuning in. Until next time, keep pedaling and rowing and cruising.
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