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208: PARTY’S HERE! Our Interview with Snooki from MTV’s Jersey Shore

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John Mills joins us to discuss the Tread passcode.

Jennifer Jacobs moves to Beach Body.

The Peloton Prophet returns with a prediction about new products.

We have your chance to win 6 FREE months of MetPro.

Dr. Jenn – How to help your loved ones be healthy.

Jenn Sherman has a class – Sold Out Shows.

Yahoo talks to Kendall Toole about mental health.

Echelon has API issues.

Angelo joins us to discuss what intermittent fasters should focus on.

There’s a new way to access Peloton in the UK.

The latest Artist Series features Raveena.

Paralympian Scout Bassett teams up with Peloton.

Christian Vande Velde is celebrating a birthday.

All this plus Snooki joins us to discuss her love of Peloton.

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Listen to the podcast here

PARTY’S HERE! Our Interview with Snooki from MTV’s Jersey Shore

An exciting/dangerous news in our house with my sixteen-year-old son, your stepson. I was clarifying for the audience why I was identifying him as my son and not your son. He got his driver’s license at long last. That’s a little nerve-wracking.

Especially when driving with him.

I’m sure people thought the same thing when we get our driver’s license.

I have no doubt. Every day I feel older and more like my parents.

These crazy kids in their Nine Inch Nails or in my case, these crazy kids in their Al Jolson.

I don’t even know who Al Jolson is. I don’t know who that is.

Singing all their songs through megaphones.

I love Nine Inch Nails. My mom would let me play Nine Inch Nails in the cassette deck on the way to school.

I’m so old. I had the eight-track adapter for cassettes. It looked like an eight-track and you put your cassette in it so you could still play it on your eight-track deck.

I didn’t even know that was a thing. My parents had eight-track players. I never saw that thing.

For about eight months it was a thing and it never worked. If we sound a little bit more nervous and on edge, it’s because we’ve been driving in the car with my sixteen-year-old son.

Overall, he does a good job. It’s just that there are moments where I fear for my life. That’s all.

What pray tell do you have in store for people in this episode?

We’re going to discuss this new tread safety rollout. We have a visit from the Peloton Prophet.

I haven’t heard from him, her or them in a while.

We also have a brand new contest to announce. We’re going to talk to Dr. Jenn about how to help family members stay healthy. We have a nutrition question all about intermittent fasting that Angelo helps us out with, and then a ton of Peloton news.

Let’s not forget our big interview with Snooki from MTV’s Jersey Shore.

I couldn’t forget. It was an amazing interview. I had a lot of fun. It was very surreal.

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We are super excited. We were surprised that we got a yes. That’s why you ask these questions. Sometimes the girl will go to prom with you. You got to throw it out there.

That’s why they say, “You never know unless you ask.”

We’re very excited about that. Before we get to all that, shameless plugs, don’t forget we’re available on Apple PodcastsSpotifyGoogle PodcastsiHeart. Wherever you find a podcast, you can find us. While you’re there, be sure and leave a review, if you would be so kind, so people that come along after you know that we’re worth checking out. We have a new review. This is from Mo Daddy 99. It says, “Great podcasts. Thank you guys for keeping us all up to date on all things Peloton. I always look forward to the Friday podcast drops and then a happy new year because it’s been there for a while.”

Thank you for the awesome review.

We are having a good new year. We just got to take our masks off.

We’re way better than we were in 2020 at this time.

We will take that. Also don’t forget, we have a Facebook page, While you’re there, like the page and join the group. Don’t forget, we’re available on YouTube, If you want to watch our Snooki interview, you can do that over there. While you’re there, be sure and subscribe to that so you don’t miss the video version of the show. You can get all the links, pictures and stuff like that emailed to you in a weekly digest. If you sign up for the newsletter at There’s all of that. Let’s dig in. Shall we?

We shall.

Joining us is John Mills. Hello, John. How is it going?

How is it going? Going great.

Always bringing that energy.

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That’s right and it’s after work so it’s all good.

Do you feel safer with your passcode? Do you feel like you’re in a cocoon of protection?

Yes. I left my front door unlocked today.

You misunderstood the protection it affords you.

I took it too far.

He’s like, “I don’t lock the front floor. I stopped wearing seatbelts. I don’t use the condom.”

That’s right. I don’t need a condom anymore. I got the passcode. I think it’s pretty cool. Once they implemented it, I started thinking, it would take a second to think about what you’re going to deploy because of all the questions that came after it. People were like, “What if I have to go to the restroom? Does it lock?

Are you in a class? That’s the answer.

I had to keep going to the four thing.

It’s like you need a flowchart. I got texts and messages from all kinds of people. It turns out that 45 seconds is not that long.

No, it’s not, 45 seconds is quick because all of us did the same thing. We went over to the tread, put in our code and we’re like, “Let’s see how long it takes.” I did that.

I got a text saying, “I had to use the bathroom and I had already picked my class. I came back and I had to start all over again.” I wanted to drop a few tricks for people about this. Here’s the deal. The first time you use it if you haven’t used it already, because it rolled out to most people but these things don’t hit all treads at once. What’s going to happen is the first time you log in, it’s going to make you choose a code. You get one code for the whole household. Everyone who’s above the age of sixteen and it’s safe to give them the code, you share with them. Once you have the code installed, you have to be doing something or it will lock within 45 seconds. You either have to touch the screen. You have to be in a class. You have to have the tread on and running. It has to sense somebody. Those are the four things.

If you go up here, here’s my suggestion for people. First of all, pee before you even approached the tread. You need to put your shoes on before you look at your class. Don’t even decide until you have everything ready. Get your water bottle and then have your watch ready to go. Once you get there and you decide on a class that you could have done on your phone and saved it as a bookmark, go ahead and turn the tread on. Just turn it on a 1.0 while you hook up your Bluetooth sensors and stuff. That keeps it engaged. It keeps it going. It gives you longer than 45 seconds. Those are my tips for everyone frustrated at the 45 seconds.

Those are good ones because I was wondering about stacking. That was the scenario. A person who’s doing stacking. They finished the first one and then they run off the tread for a second. They come back and it’s locked. Now you’re not in the class. You need to get back in.

You got to get back to your stack, but you could hit continue stack and then pee or you could go pee and then come back and then like re-login and go to your stack. It’s not that hard to get to your stack.

I like that if you want to lock at any point, you just put it on sleep. Hold the button and you let go. When it goes to sleep, it locks, right?

Yes. Here’s one thing I don’t like about it. When it comes back, why is it not on the screen you left it on? That’s the only thing. It should be like a screensaver. It just locks the outside, not the inside. If you were picking a class and you ran off to go pee, part of the reason people are so frustrated is because you got to go all the way back to the beginning. I had to pick my profile. I don’t want to go back into my profile. It’s two more steps. If we can make just a little couple of tweaks to make it better.

I’m assuming they’ll tweak it and clean it up and do some things.

I think so. I’m seeing lots of suggestions like, “I would just like to sign a waiver that I don’t need this.” I’m thinking that’s not going to happen.

I was wondering about that before they put it out. Whether or not this was going to be optional. You are automatically opt-in, but then you can opt-out. I was wondering if they would do that, but I guess not.

I don’t think they’re going to because the whole thing is about accident prevention. Nobody plans to have an accident. Everybody thinks they’re going to be okay. If you thought you were going to get injured or someone in your house would be injured by the tread, you wouldn’t have bought it in the first place. That’s like saying, “I’m not going to get in a wreck, no need to wear a seatbelt.”

I’m not closing my door. I feel safe now with this.

It’s a brave new world. It’s like anything, you’ll get used to it. It’s like when your phone first had a passcode.

On Apple, at least you can use face ID now. On my work phone, that was painful because they have rules and guidelines. It has to be a certain amount of time. Those things are locking every few seconds.

Also if you’re wearing a mask all the time, with the face thing.

Moving along, Jennifer Jacobs has popped back up in a new and interesting locale.

We have to preface this by who the heck is Jennifer Jacobs because it has been over a year and how many people have joined Peloton since then. I think we have to start with that.

I got that question too. I posted about it as well in my group and yeah. A couple of people were like, “Who’s Jennifer Jacobs?”

I don’t remember when she started. I think she started before we joined Peloton. It was probably 2015. She was around until 2019. She would have been a coach for a long time. She’s an outdoor cyclist as well. She left Peloton. Why she left Peloton? It depends on who you ask and we’re not going to get into that here. What we are going to get into is she has been working on things in the background. She had been at a company called Ladder where she was providing personal training. My understanding from her Instagram account is she still at Ladder, but she is also a coach at Beachbody. She is going to be teaching indoor cycling classes in English and French, which is new.

She’s an actual coach. She’s not going to try and pop up in my Facebook feed and sell me shakes.

That is a big part of Beachbody. I can’t say she’s not going to sell you things.

They call all the people who are out selling things MLM, right?

The shake part of it is.

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They call them coaches. Is she actually teaching classes or does she got a bunch of stuff to sell?

It sounded like the way it was described on their Instagram page is she was specifically brought in for the content that they’re going to be providing off the MYX bike and on that MYX bike.

I thought it was interesting. I’m sure you saw in your group a post about like, “Is this going to cause problems because they mentioned Peloton?” At first, I was like, “What are you talking about?” He might have a point. I’m a little curious to see how that goes.

I didn’t read the whole thing, but what I saw where I remember the Peloton was mentioned is they referenced her as a former Peloton instructor.

It’s another company mentioning Peloton and they don’t have Peloton’s right to do that.

I think it’s okay because it’s a statement of fact. That is what she used to do. It’s like when somebody leaves a band. They can still say, “Dennis DeYoung, formerly Styx,” even though he doesn’t own the rights to the name Styx because that’s a statement of fact. He was in the band Styx.

I get that and that was my take on it originally, but then he said he got called out for it. There was a long story that happened. It happened to him with another company. That’s why he was like, “I’m not sure.”

If they will use it in marketing materials like in a press release or a bio of her on the website that’s more text-driven, they would have issues. If they put out an ad and it was like “Formerly Peloton,” then they might have an issue. From what I’ve seen thus far, I don’t think that there’s a whole lot they can do about it. They could say that just to make them jump through some hoops. I don’t know that they’d get anywhere.

It’s all fascinating that on the same day they announced that Jennifer Jacobs is now going to be a part of this new MYX offering, they also released an earning statement that is combined Beachbody-MYX first quarter 2021. It just feels to me like they’re trying to play up and prepare people for this IPO so that they see it as, “We are now the only true competitor of Peloton.” They’re trying to position it. That’s the way I’m reading these things coming out.

I think you’re right.

Also, their timing. When you look at their previous press release, they said that the IPO would occur before the end of the second quarter of 2021, which would be the end of June. All of this seems like they’re gearing up. That’s what it feels like. When you look at their numbers, I’m confused if they’re subscribers.

If their IPO is that close, looking back to when Peloton was going through that, shouldn’t they be in a quiet period or whatever? It makes the IPO ideas sound like bullshit.

What is the quiet period? Was it like 2 or 3 months? I can’t remember.

I don’t know but it is significant. It’s not like two weeks. Let’s put it that way.

It seemed like it went on forever. There was a good chunk of time where it was just radio silence from Peloton.

That’s a good point. They’ve released some numbers in April that made you go, “What? You guys have that many subscribers?” Now they released the combined number of subscribers, their revenue and their retention rate. Maybe it’s just me reading into it. It feels like a week and a half ago, Nautilus released their numbers. Two weeks ago, Peloton released their earnings numbers. Two weeks later, they released comparable metrics. They don’t have to.

They’re preparing people to invest is what you’re thinking. They want to get the investors. They’re going after the investors for their IPO is what I hear you saying. That’s an interesting approach because I feel like Peloton didn’t need to do that. You can’t convince investors of anything. It’s all the financials that they care about. They don’t care about learning the inner workings of things and how fervent the following is. I don’t think Beachbody has that. I don’t think there’s another company on the planet that’s fitness related that has that. Maybe that doesn’t matter. It’s like what we talked about define a winner.

I think it’s a smart hire. I don’t know that she lures anybody away from Peloton necessarily. She’s obviously a quality instructor and she’s going to bring things that she learned with her. It’s like a baseball team hiring a veteran to teach the younger kids how to do it right. It also gives them maybe endorsement is too strong of a word, but it says something about the quality of the class. If this instructor was good enough for Peloton for five years, then you know that the classes she’s teaching will be of a certain quality. I’m honestly surprised we haven’t seen more of these companies doing it. To me, it’s such an obvious choice to go scoop up some of these former Peloton instructors. I have been positively mystified watching these companies that will copy everything Peloton does but not hire their former instructor.

Maybe they did try and they’re not paying enough because Peloton pays their instructors very well.

I get that they’re not able to lure them away from Peloton.

I know but even the past instructors, maybe they’ve found other ways to make that money, but whatever is being offered maybe is not a good enough deal.

That could be. To me, it seems such an obvious choice to go hire a couple of Peloton instructors and let them teach the other people what works and what doesn’t, and then move forward with that sort of product line.

It looks like that’s what they’re going to do here. Did you see the images of what these classes are going to look like? The production looks cheesy. I’m hoping this evolved into something comparable because how disappointing if you get this instructor that could bring this to life and it’s just this cheesy representation. I’m hoping that doesn’t happen.

I hope for Jennifer Jacobs sake that that is not what’s happening.

The other thing about it is when I’m looking at all the numbers is you now learned that MYX has only 11,000 subscribers. That was interesting. Beachbody has all these subscribers and they got all these numbers and everything. From a bike perspective, they are going to have nothing. They got the social representation. Their social numbers are up there near Peloton. Their subscription-based, even though it’s just for nutrition and digital, is up there with Peloton. When you combine the two, you’re talking about actual hardware sales and bike subscriptions, it’s minuscule. You see that that’s where their challenges are going to be. Are they going to be able to get all those millions of people to go buy that MYX bike? That to me is the question.

What is the price point? How does the price point compare? I can’t remember. Do we know?

I don’t remember either. I think it was around $2,000.

It’s similar to Peloton.

I don’t remember. I have to go back and look.

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I thought it was going to be like an Echelon offering price-wise. I’m not saying Beachbody is offering what echelon is offering from a quality standpoint, but from a price-wise, that makes me think the answer is no, they’re not going to be able to convert all those people because if the price is the issue why they’re not with Peloton, then they’re going to go buy a cheaper bike, not a MYX bike.

You remember also that the MYX position was you’re the unsocial person. You don’t want to talk to anybody. You just want to get on a bike and do a class. You are anti-social. That is the way they advertise.

Their target demographic is the Witness Relocation Program.

It’s like, “I won’t talk to nobody. If anybody’s on this ride with me, I’m getting off.” That was their whole thing. Now Beachbody is coming in with all this social stuff. I don’t know. We’ll see.

They have to reinvent themselves. This is very interesting.

John, thank you so much for joining us. Until next time, where can people find you?

They can find me in my Run, Lift & Live group or page on Facebook. They can find me on Instagram @RunLiftAndLive or at

It’s been a little bit since we’ve had a visit from the Peloton Prophet and they have a new prediction for us.

We are hearing the timeline for the new products that are coming out for Peloton.

That’s a bold prediction. It is something that everybody’s been waiting on. That’s not just like, “We have a new instructor assistant in New Zealand.” That’s a big deal.

The prophet says that strength will be announced fall of 2021. The rower will be announced during the first half of the calendar year 2022.

We will see. Place your bets.

I believe this is happening, just to be clear. I am 100% on board and I am very curious to see how this all goes.

We have a new contest for people. This one is just an enter the wind thing. There’s no money needed. It’s free to everyone. People have heard us talking about MetPro and our journey with MetPro and us both having slim girlish figures. We have a chance for you to win six free months of MetPro. Get your own personal MetPro assistant who will text and talk to you and keep you on the right path.

Also, help you hack your metabolic profile. It’s so much more complex than it sounds. It’s not just a person telling you, “You should eat this. You should eat healthier.” That’s not what’s happening. This is super-specific.

They put the dots close together for you. It’s more than just someone saying eat healthy when you’re like, “No, shit.” It’s working for me. It’s very easy to enter. If you go to, you can either sign up for a consult or download the app. If you do that, you will be automatically entered into the contest. That easy. We’ve had a lot of people already signed up with MetPro. Thank you very much. If you’re like, “You dirty bastards,” don’t worry, you’re already automatically entered. If you win, then they’ll give you six free months moving forward. You’ll be good to go. Don’t feel like you got penalized for signing up early. You did not. You’re still entered into the contest.

If you already downloaded the app, then go do the consult. If you did the consult but you didn’t download the app, you didn’t do anything, go do the other one. You’ll get entered. That’s another way to enter you. You might’ve done one step but not the other. If you do the other step this month between now and the end of June, you can enter.

Six free months of MetPro and you can play along with us at home. Won’t that be fun?

Joining us is Dr. Jenn Mann, licensed marriage, family and child therapist, and sports psychology consultant. You may know her from VH1’s Couples Therapy with Dr. Jenn or VH1’s Family Therapy with Dr. Jenn, her long-running radio show, The Dr. Jenn Show and she’s written four bestselling books including The Relationship Fix: Dr. Jenn’s 6-Step Guide to Improving Communication, Connection and Intimacy. It’s Dr. Jenn.


I have yet another question for you from The Clip Out community. This one is from Amy Miller Sams. She would like to know how she can be “helpful” to family members who are grown adults who need to incorporate healthy habits and ditch non-healthy habits into their lives. As we all know, we don’t make changes until we want to make a change. Nagging, suggesting, inviting, etc, don’t seem to work.

This is such a good question and I totally get this. I’m right now working on my father in a number of health areas, especially healthy diet areas. The key is, first of all, knowing the person. Knowing the psychology of that particular person and looking at what will motivate that person. For some people, pain is a great motivator. For other people, aesthetics is a great motivator. For others, it is research-based. Show me an article or research that says if I do X, then Y is going to happen. For some people, nagging may work but that tends to be the least effective and I hate the word nagging. Coming from a loving place is important. The more critical you are of the person, the more power you lose. Let’s say you have a spouse that is overweight, criticizing their body is unlikely to get you results.

Coming from an angle of like, “I want to be able to share life on this planet with you for as long as possible. I’m worried that you’re hurting your health. Let’s talk about what you might be willing to do to live longer and have a healthier life. It’s knowing the psychology and at the end of the day, you can’t make someone do something that they don’t want to do. It’s particularly hard when you’re someone who lives a healthy lifestyle. I’m vegan. I exercise seven days a week. I’m obsessed with my Peloton. I get where Amy’s coming from. It’s very hard when you see other people making choices that you know are going to lead them to an earlier grave than they would necessarily need to have.

It’s hard to relate when you’re someone who is so deeply integrated into their lives. Part of what’s important to understand is that when we look at studies of people who exercise regularly, when we look at people who change their diet, that there is a positive association for those of us who have integrated into our lives. For example, and they talked about this in the book, The Power of Habit when they looked at studies of people who exercise for the long term on a regular basis and ultimately lost weight, what they found is that there was an association between exercise, endorphins, feeling good, accomplishment and all of this stuff.

What we forget when we’re people who exercise regularly is that when people first start out exercising, they don’t get any fat. Exercise is painful and challenging. You oftentimes feel like a failure in the Especially if you have a partner that exercises a lot, you look at them and you’re like, “My wife is lifting heavier than I am. I feel terrible.” It starts out with a negative association and the person who’s making the change has to tolerate the negative feelings associated with exercise for a temporary period. If you first start running, you’re not going to get endorphins. You have to have a certain level of fitness to get those endorphins. You’re also not going to get a feeling of accomplishment.

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You may get a feeling at the end like, “I did something hard and I challenged myself,” but you’re not going to get to feel like when I go on the treadmill, in the beginning, I’m not a natural runner. I’ve talked about this a lot. It was painful. It was hard. Getting through twenty minutes was killer. Now on my long run, I can do an hour and I can look back and I go, “I’m so awesome. This is amazing. Look how far I’ve come.” That feels great, even if that hour doesn’t always necessarily feel great, but it feels great in the end. Even when I’m doing it, it feels better than it did when I did the twenty minutes in the beginning.

Understanding the psychology behind it. Also, if you’re encouraging someone to make changes, you’re better off encouraging them to make small changes and doing it incrementally than being like, “You should be working out every day as I do.” Instead, “Maybe you can try a five-minute stretch class with me,” or “Would you be up for doing a five-minute core class?” I’ve had a lot of friends who’ve approached me over the last year, because I post all of my workouts on Insta Stories, who have said, “I’d love to start working out. Can you help me?” One of the things that I always recommend is to start with Emma’s Crush Your Core because it starts with five minutes. You’re on the floor on your back. You’re practically laying down. It’s hard, you build up but it will give you a feeling of accomplishment and help you integrate exercise into your life. To me, that’s the perfect starter.

I don’t think my body makes endorphins. I still get none of that. I have undorphins.

Are you doing any cardio? I know you’re doing weights.

He does a little bit. He does like floor-based HIIT cardio type things.

It’s what the MetPro people make me do. It feels like by the time I’m done, no endorphins. Is that a medical condition? Is that a real thing? Do I just not make them?

It’s not but what’s probably happening, and this is just a hypothesis, is that you’re not doing cardio long enough to get that.

It sure feels long.

Those HIIT cardio classes are killers. That’s part of my new workout regimen. I do two 10-minute HIIT cardio classes. Each time, I’m like, “How am I going to get through this? I don’t know that I’m going to be able to get through this.” Somehow you do. I do find like I get endorphins on the bike and on the tread. I’ve never gotten endorphins doing a HIIT cardio class. Maybe it will come one day. Maybe I’m just not at the level, but where I see it the most is the tread and the bike.

Thank you so much for joining us. Until next time, where can people find you?

You can find me on all social media. On Instagram @DrJennMann. As I mentioned on Insta Stories, I post all of my Peloton workouts.

Jenn Sherman has a new class type she created.

It’s a new series called Sold Out Show. Every week, she’s going to take us on a musical journey that’s going to be some of her favorite concerts she’s ever been to. It goes with that vibe. I believe this is going to be another four-week series and it starts Sunday. I am super excited about that.

When will be the first Sold Out Show? She talks about the journey in the post.

That was just what she said she was doing. I don’t think it says.

I wonder since she started off talking about the journey, is it going to be a journey?

I don’t know. A lot of times when she does these new series, she’ll talk about them the day before. She’ll announce it the day before.

I guess you just have to go take the ride to find out.

I will be there if that matters to anyone.

Yahoo sat down and talked to Kendall Toole about mental health.

It’s mental health awareness month. Kendall has done a class a long time ago, but she also did one this May. It was the mental health awareness ride. I’ve heard lots of people talk about it at this point. It’s something she’s very passionate about because as this article explains, she started her mental health journey pretty early. She was eleven when she was diagnosed with OCD, which is Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder. She learned to manage that but then in college, she was also diagnosed with anxiety and depression.

This article talks about how she’s used that diagnosis and the counseling that she has received to learn how to function in life better. Now she uses that to help other people. One of the things that Peloton posted from her mental health awareness ride was talking about how you don’t need to worry about next week or next month or how it’s all going to work out. Just worry about today. One step at a time. You hear that a lot when it comes to depression and anxiety. As an anxious person, I am constantly thinking about what’s next. Sometimes I can get 5, 6, 7 steps down the road and they can be dark places.

Yes, I know.

They don’t all know that. It can be very helpful to talk that through with somebody and to hear that advice. I think that’s cool that they’re highlighting it.

Echelon who we like to tease for copying so much from Peloton has copied from them again. They also have a leaky API. How about that? People affected are expected to be in the tens.

They do not have the number of customers that Peloton does, nor will they ever. The interesting thing about this is that it lets this person who found it, Jan Masters, who was the same person who found the one over at Peloton, the account data was name, city, age, sex, phone number, weight, birthday, workout, statistics and history of any member, and live or prerecorded classes. Also, the API disclosed some information about the members’ workout equipment such as its serial number. The crazy thing was that some of this stuff could be manipulated. That’s crazy. They were copying Peloton from how they were handling their data, but it was also worse how they were handling it. It was interesting information.

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That sums up Echelon, “Like Peloton but worse.” I think that’s their new slogan. I might as well gift it to them because if they wanted it, they’d just take it.

Joining us from MetPro is Angelo. How’s it going?

It is wonderful to be back.

It’s wonderful to have you here. You might remember that we started gathering some questions from our Clip Out community. We have a brand new one for you. David Howenstein, I think I’m hoping I am not completely butchering his last name. He would like to know what should a person focus on for intermittent fasting or do you agree with a fasting program?

Let’s dive in. Like the answer to every question that you will ever ask me in these segments, the answer is always it depends.

Are you running for office? What is going on?

This is why there is so much value in knowing your metabolic profile because that’s what it depends on. What should you focus on? If you’re doing intermittent fasting, you should be focusing on weight loss. David, don’t do intermittent fasting and focus on PRs or hitting new heights of athletic performance. I know there are the guys in the commercials on YouTube channels who say, “I’m getting stronger every day on intermittent fasting.” They’d be getting stronger still if they weren’t, trust me. Training plus fuel equals your best performance. That said, if somebody is doing intermittent fasting, their goal is weight loss.

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There ends up being a few tentacles to this that are important. People just don’t understand when they’re diving into something. One of the most common questions we get asked is, why are you not using that science when you use so many different sciences? We’re highly diverse. We use macronutrient rationing, carb manipulation, calorie control, glycemic load, meal timing, six different modalities of training. We don’t usually, I say usually because there are even exceptions there but usually, the intermittent fasting because what’s going to happen is when somebody is trying to lose weight, there’s going to be a cycle. You’re going to do X strategy to lose weight. In our minds, we’re going to do X energy until we get to the weight we want to be, then we live a balanced lifestyle. It doesn’t work that way.

You’re going to do X strategy and you’re going to lose some weight. You’re not going to get where you want to and your metabolism is going to go, “I get it.” It’s going to acclimate to that. You’re still going to have 20 pounds to go or whatever the case may be. Knowing that’s going to be the case, no matter how great a program it is that you dive into. When you hit that point where now your body is acclimated to your strategy, we’ve optimized, exercise, volume, intensity and modality. We’ve optimized your meal layout, nutritionally for the strategy you’re implementing. You’re still at a point where your body’s not giving up more pounds, then the third lever is going to be we have to speed your metabolism.

That’s the point at which you are at a disadvantage with a more aggressive intermittent fasting strategy. People ask me all the time, “Do you lose more weight by eating small meals frequently or eating 1 or 2 bigger meals?” The answer is you’re going to lose about the same given what the calorie content is, what the volume of food is. An average person who’s used to eating 2,000 calories a day. It could be much more, much less, but we’re just using that for illustration, and spreads those 2,000 calories out over 5 or 6 small meals snacks throughout the day, versus someone who eats just 1 or 2 times a day will both lose about the same weight.

There are nuances here. If exercise is involved, you can make an argument that the one spreading it out will recover better and have more energy and therefore, lose more consecutive weeks. by and large, just from a pure weight-loss standpoint, it’s about the same. The problem we get to is that point that I talked about earlier where you do hit a plateau. Everybody will plateau. At that point, we have to get your body used to more fuel. That’s where there is the trade-off. I’m not saying intermittent fasting is bad because there are scenarios and there is a science to it. That’s where there’s a trade-off because it’s exponentially harder for me as a coach to now work with someone who’s used to only eating bigger meals once or twice a day to get them used to more fuel without gaining weight.

If I have someone who’s used to eating 4, 5, 6 times a day, I can gradually increase their intake with minimal or no weight gain sometimes. Occasionally or about 25 to 30% of the time, we can even lose a few more ounces while increasing their intake. If somebody is only used to eating once or twice or only have 1 or 2 meals to add those calories and to add those carbs. Usually, they’re already fuller meals because they’re going to be hungry if they’re only eating with that frequency. That’s where it gets a little bit more tricky, which is why you get that rebound weight gain a little more aggressively coming off of something like an intermittent fasting style.

That’s not to say it doesn’t have its upsides. The principal upside is not what the gurus will sometimes over-emphasize. “It’s how your biology and hormones work when you’re only eating once a day.” There is truth to that. There is science behind that, but that’s not the principal factor. The principal factor is you’re eating less calories. You’re eating less food or you’re eating less carbs because you’re eating less often. As a human being with a busy lifestyle, it is generally speaking, easier to consistently eat less calories when you’re skipping meals versus having to eat just right at each meal or snack. That takes more effort, more preparation, more thought.

It’s simple math. Instead of having 1 or 2 opportunities to eat something wrong, you have 4 or 5 opportunities to eat something wrong. From a behavioral standpoint, sometimes people who are struggling to get on board can find that they can compartmentalize the timing of their meals and lower their calories. I want to just eliminate the myth of because you’re only eating in this 2 or 3-hour tight turnaround. It’s blown out of proportion. We know that because of people who’ve gone through gastric bypass surgery and different interventions of a surgical nature. What we find most of the time is they end up coming out on the other side, eating small meals very frequently. That’s not always healthy either. I’ve known many people, they’d wake up and eat a couple of Triscuits and usually, a handful of M&M’s a little later. Maybe they get one meal that’s healthy, nutritious throughout the day. I’m not saying that’s how you should do it, but this is the stuff I hear but hand over foot, they’re losing weight.

I feel like the more we talked to you, the more diets are out there, whether it’s intermittent fasting or low carb. It’s more about the personality quirk of the person. There are a million different ways to get there. For some people, that’s the easier way to do it because of how they’re wired for whatever reason.

I’ll give you two examples of when I instructed a client to use intermittent fasting. The first example was I had a client who had a voracious appetite. He would have long workdays that required him to wake up early in the morning. What was happening is he was getting up and training at 4:35 AM, and then he was needing to eat 2 or 3 times before lunch. After that intense training, he had this voracious appetite. He kept eating throughout the day. In his case, what we did was we had him sleep a little more in the morning, reposition his workouts to be right after lunch, though it meant he didn’t have as much time. I had to shorten his workouts. He found that having breakfast a few hours later, in his case, it was about 10:30, 11:00 in the morning. That was still a significant switch. He was still eating 4 or 5 times a day, but he was able to tolerate a significantly lower calorie load and still recover from it. That enabled him to lose weight.

Another example is I had a gal who was one of the TV personalities that went on those deserted island type deals and survive for 30 days. You’re going to eat the bugs and the winter you get. She didn’t need to lose any weight. She wanted to gain a couple of pounds. She was terrified that she was going to have low blood sugar and have a ravenous headache and feel miserable the whole time because she would eat every few hours. I worked with her for about six months leading up to the show. What we did was we slowly got her down to just eating breakfast, lunch and dinner, no snacking. After that, we took out her breakfast. She was just doing lunch and dinner, then about three weeks before her leaving for the show, she would do just a big dinner and the snack. We did that to recondition her metabolism to running slower.

Here’s the big shocker, eating less often doesn’t speed your metabolism. It slows it. By the way and I’m telling on myself here, so does eating less calories, even if you’re spreading them out through the day. Eating less calories also slows it. The key is we want to hypothesize a strategy that’s going to work for you so that way, we can reduce intake in a way that we can strategically recover from on the other side. That takes a little planning. When we have your metabolic rating and we know where you’re starting, it makes it so much easier to determine if you’re a candidate for this strategy or that strategy, or another strategy entirely that maybe we hadn’t thought of before.

To just drive the point home, when David asks the question, what should you focus on for your intermittent fasting? The question is bigger than that because it’s what is the strategy that works best for David? That’s where having a personalized approach from MetPro is where you’re getting the bang for your buck. We’ve talked about this before. Tom and I have completely different strategies and everybody we’ve talked to who’s on MetPro is very different. It’s not the same because we all have our own little quirks, our own little things that work for us, not only in our head but in our metabolism that we need to change.

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Thanks so much, guys.

For those of you in the UK, there’s a new way to access Peloton.

Over in the US whenever we get something added like Roku, we know Roku. This is getting added to Sky Q. I just wanted to give that example because not everybody knows what Sky Q is. I wouldn’t have known what Sky Q is.

Why would we because it’s targeted to people in the UK.

It’s pretty cool because now Peloton is there. They’re starting to roll out on all those screens in the UK in different places as well.

Peloton has found a new artist for the kids. I say the kids because I’ve never heard of her.

I haven’t heard of her either. It might just be that we don’t listen to a wide variety of modern music.

That could also be the culprit.

This is a perfect balance between RnB and traditions from the South Asian diaspora. There was an entire yoga class that took place on 5/20. It’s going to be an artist series featuring Raveena. Raveena also went live with Aditi and they had a whole conversation about working out.

She went on Instagram live.

They talked about the intersection of music, meditation and celebrating Asian Pacific Islander Heritage Month. Also, during that Instagram live, you got a preview of the playlist for Aditi’s Yoga Flow. That’s pretty cool. I love that they’re having these conversations with the artists.

If you want to link to that, you can get it by signing up for our newsletter at so you don’t have to go hunting for it. It’ll arrive in your inbox and it’ll be there waiting for you. Also, while we’re talking about music and artists collaborations and whatnot, there is a new Verzuz for people to check out.

This one is Alicia Keys or John Legend. Classes started on May 19th. You can put #VerzuzJohnLegend or #VerrzuzAliciaKeys to vote. I think this is my favorite one so far.

Who are you voting for?

Alicia Keys. She’s a girl on fire.

You do love yourself some Hunger Games. Also, Peloton has partnered up with Paralympian Scout Bassett.

This is fun because we have the Champions Collection that we talked about. There are all these different athletes that have teamed up with Peloton. This specific one, Scout Bassett has selected several classes. It’s her stack that she selected. That’s pretty cool. You can find them under the champions collection whenever you go to your bike or tread. Look under Collections and there will be the Champions Collection. That’s where you can find it. I think that’s neat.

We have a birthday coming up.

Happy birthday to Christian Vande Velde. This is one instructor I’ve never taken a class with because he is a guest instructor. He has been part of the Peloton pantheon since the beginning. He’s a celebrity so he doesn’t pop in and do classes all the time. He’s a professional road rider.

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His birthday is on May 22nd if you want to reach out.

Happy birthday.

You’ve seen her on Dancing with the Stars, The New Celebrity Apprentice. She was at WrestleMania and competed, but you probably know her best from Jersey Shore. Ladies and gentlemen, the party’s here. It’s Snooki. How’s it going?

How are you guys?

We’re good. It is so awesome to have you here. I know that you ride Peloton. I’m curious, when did you originally come across Peloton and decide, “This is for me?”

I’ve been working out for several years hardcore now, ever since I had my baby, my first son. Lorenzo is going to be nine. When Peloton came out, the first year where it was getting popular and you’ve seen all the commercials, I was like, “I have to get the bikes.” I ended up getting the bike, but I’m more of a runner. Before the tread came out, I was all about the bike. I was forcing myself to do it. I don’t use it anymore because I have the tread now. It’s my therapy. If I don’t run or if I don’t do my cardio, I’m a cranky, miserable mom. It’s my saving grace. I have to use it every single day.

Do you have a Peloton tread or another tread that you use Peloton content on?

I have to get to Peloton tread.

Are you worried about your safety with the Peloton Tread and the recall? Are you okay?

They come and install it. They’re like, “You have kids. You always have to put this thing in there, make sure they’re not around the equipment.” When I work out, my kids are not allowed to be downstairs with me. If they are, they’re in the total opposite direction of the room and they’re not allowed to go in the gym unless I’m in there. I’m not worried about it, but I could see how something bad could happen.



It’s still heavy machinery, so you still have to be careful. You were already working out and going to the gym. Has Peloton changed your fitness level at all since you’re doing it every day? Does that make it easier to stay in shape?

I feel like it helped my cardio because I was weight training with my trainer. We’d been doing heavy weight training for a while. It helped me with upping my cardio and running faster, which is good. It helped overall with my workouts.

I know that you use the bike because the bike is made for somebody who’s 5’4 and above. There was a couple of articles that came out about if you’re shorter than that, the bike is not made for you. I was curious if you had any tips for anybody out there who’s on the shorter side. What can they do to make the bike more comfortable?

All the settings have to be all the way to the front, all the way down. Everything has to be on zero, but it’s still uncomfortable. Even when I work out in a gym, a lot of the equipment, it’s not made for a small person. You have to do the form correctly. I feel like the bike’s not that bad. It hurts my ass more than usual.

Are there any adjustments you have to make for the tread?

No. The tread’s good.

I like that about the treadmill, that it’s more accessible for people. You don’t need to know how to do anything. As long as you can walk, you can get on it and do a workout on it. I feel like it’s super accessible.

You were a cheerleader in high school, I’ve read over the years. Did you do fitness stuff then or was it the beauty of youth that you could participate in an activity like that? That’s intense, cheerleading and some squats.

I did competitive gymnastics. When I was four, my mom threw me in there. I did that until thirteen and then it got intense. It was a lot. It’s hard to be a teenager and also dedicate your life to that sport. Gymnastics got a little too much, so then I decided to do cheerleading because you could still do the flips, stunt and do all that stuff, but it’s not as time-consuming. It wasn’t all-star cheerleading, but it was high school cheerleading. I was the captain of my cheer squad. I still got to do all my back tucks and my flips, still do the sport. After college, I did all-star competitive cheerleading. I did that until I got onto the show and then everything went downhill. I wasn’t working out and drinking. I gained 50 pounds.

That has to be quite a culture shock when you’re used to being fit in a certain size. I would think it would be difficult because, with the nature of the show, you’re incentivized to go party and drink.

I turned 21. It’s my college years because I never went away for college. I went to community. It was like my college years to gain the freshmen fifteen, go crazy and enjoy yourself. I missed working out but at the same time, I had a blast.

Were you at the top of the cheerleading pyramid physically? Not the hierarchy of the leadership.

I was the captain. I was the leader. We’re called flyers. You have bases. The bases throw the flyers in the air. I was a flyer because I’m tiny.

You said that you’re using the treadmill. Do you do any of the yoga content, meditation or do you stick with the regular classes?

I love to take a break from running all the time because it is exhausting. Some days you don’t want to run out of ache. You want to relax your body but still try and break a sweat. My number one classes are Adrian Williams’ bootcamps where you’re running you to the floor and the weights. I usually do those, but if my body’s tired, I love the new bar classes that they have. I do meditation when I feel depressed. I’m like, “This isn’t you.” I do meditate then I sit in the sauna. I feel like Peloton has everything for me when it comes to my mood. I’m not always in a good mood. I’m stressed. I have three kids and life happens. I feel every class is catered to what mood I’m in that day.

Who’s your go-to instructor for your everyday mood?

Adrian Williams. Don’t get me wrong. All the instructors are amazing. I like to switch it up once in a while, but I feel like when I work out with him, I don’t feel pressured. I feel like I’m chilling. He has great music. He pushes me but I don’t feel like he’s pushing me.

He’s pushing you but you don’t feel stressed about that pushing.

I feel calm.

Are there any instructors on a day that you’re feeling super hyped, “I need somebody to kick my ass?” Who’s that instructor?

If I want to die, I’ll do the bike with Kendall. Kendall is my favorite. I become friends with her on Instagram because I’m obsessed with her. I love her energy.

I saw that the hardest-rated class on the bike is Kendall’s Metal class.

The number that she throws out, I’m like, “I will never be there on my best day.” Her class is 6,000 people. I’m 5,800th. I’m one of the last people.

It doesn’t help whenever, first of all, being female. The less that you weigh, the less power that you’re putting down. That affects the leaderboard.

It’s a disadvantage to us. I hate seeing the numbers.

Do you hide the leaderboard?

I do. I don’t usually do live classes because I can’t mix the times, but when I do run and there’s a couple of people taking the class, I make sure that I beat everyone. I’m on an ache, dying and feel like I’m going to throw up but I want to make sure that I come in the 1st and 2nd pot. If they go in front of me, I get mad at them, but after, I give them all high fives.

Is that the here now crowd that you’re beating or is that the entire?

The here now. You guys are jerks and then I’m like, “Good job, everyone.”

Do you high-five them as you pass them or you laugh?

When I know they’re not going to beat me anymore, I’m like, “Good job.”

We have watched a lot of Jersey Shore. I feel like I could put together a hilarious montage of all the times we saw you peeing on the show. I remember reading on your Instagram that you had an incident that you peed on the bike, is that true? If so, what happened?

After three kids, you can’t control it anymore. If you go hard on the bike, you know how you go up and then you go down, do that a lot of times, it’ll trinkle out. Once I said that there are so many moms that DM-ed me that were like, “I’m so glad I’m not the only one.” That happens all the time. Usually, if I know I’m going to go hard on the bike, I have to wear my Depend because I know it’s going to come out.

Everybody’s waiting on that Peloton rower, but maybe they need a device for Kegels.

Get on everything.

If they do come out with a rower, are you going to get that as well?

Anything they come out with, I’ll get.

I know Joe’s Jersey Shore gets a bad rap in a lot of areas. I would like to give it a legit compliment. One of the things I see the Jersey Shore shows do, both the original and family vacation that I don’t know that I can see other reality shows doing is you guys fight sometimes, but legit make up. You never see that on other shows like people fighting and then modeling, owning your business, apologizing and then getting past it and being friends again. People lose sight of that or people have never watched it and they assume it’s something that it’s not.

I feel like we are all a family. We know we’re going to work together no matter what. For me, I hate drama, bad blood and the big elephant in the room. It’s not part of my personality. I’m here to have a good time and go home. When there is a drama with me, it’s hard. That’s why I decided to step back and take a break because it’s not the show that I signed up for anymore. When we do fight, we end up making sure that we make up because we are a family at the end of the day. People do fight. It is what it is, especially when you’re filming that show because we’re stuck in a house staring at each other for three weeks. It’s bound to happen. Overall, we just want to have a good time.

It shows. I like that you guys have a camaraderie. There’s got to be drama because that’s life. You all have strong personalities. You put people with strong personalities in a room together. Having said that about Peloton, the leaderboard, you were talking about how competitive you are, do you ever ride or run with your real-life friends?

I used to do it with my sister-in-law when we sucked. That was nice because we both knew that we sucked. We were in it together and dying together. Jenni, JWoww, got the bike. She’s been doing that. We’ve been trying to do a class together, but I prefer to die alone.

Does anyone else in your household use the equipment or is it all yours?

He likes to do landscapes. He likes to do that, but sometimes he gets motion sickness.

Has he tried the new ones that they put out all those new fancy scenic rides?

I don’t know if he’s seen that. He’s more of a scenic ride.

The guided ones with the instructors are cool. I don’t know if your husband will like it if he likes the traditional ones, but I bet you would like it since you like the instructors. I’m also curious, do you have any advice for moms who are trying to fit in workouts? You love being a mom, but you have me time where you’d make that work. How can moms do that?

I feel like it’s a lot, especially with three kids because you wake up at 7:00, drop them off at school, you’re getting all your chores done. By the time you have a minute to yourself, it’s already 7:00 at night and you’re like, “I didn’t even have time to work out or do anything for myself.” Even if you don’t have the equipment and you have the app, you can literally play it on your TV in your bedroom because this is what I sometimes do if I don’t have time. When the kids are in bed, I’ll do a twenty-minute bodyweight class to get something done and I’m sweating. I got it done and I feel good. They even have ten-minute stretching. I know moms can be busy and it’s a stressful life being a mom, but taking the twenty minutes even right before bed, it’s worth it.

Do you ever envision taking a class in the studio when that’s allowed again, or you think that would be too much?

Me and my me and my good trainer friend, Adria, she’s been trying to be an instructor for Peloton for several years. She’s been sending her resumes. Right before the pandemic hit, we did Cody’s class twice. They were going to start to do the tread classes then that’s when everything closed up. I was supposed to do a little press thing and I was going to run with one of the instructors outside and talk about Peloton. I started to do live classes. Being in the studio is amazing. I do love doing cycle in classes because you get the vibe, it’s all dark, you’re all sweaty. It feels like you’re in a club because you’re listening to the club music, spin in classes. I was doing that and then everything shut down. Hopefully, it’ll start up because I want to do Adrian’s class. I will die. That’s the first class we’re going to run to.

Is that the instructor you’re supposed to do the press thing with or was it someone else?

I forget who it was. It was a girl. It was right when the tread came out. They wanted to do something with that. I got upset because COVID ruined everything.

Do you want to tell people about your podcast and what all happens there?

I’ve had my podcasts for several years. It’s with my gay bestie and makeup artist, Joey. We’ve been doing virtual live shows because right before the pandemic hit, we were touring and selling out all these venues, doing our live podcast shows. It was so much fun. We ended up doing live ones. We’re doing a live one on June 4, 2021. You literally just sign on. It’s a girls’ night and we’re drinking. We do interact with bands. It’s a big Zoom of all of us drinking, being stupid. It’s called It’s Happening with Snooki & Joey. It’s a podcast where you’re listening to a girlfriend’s issue. We also do celebrity gossip, but we report everything wrong. We have no idea what we’re saying.

I don’t know how closely you follow Peloton. I can tell you love them. Were you part of Homecoming that happened? Were you watching all of the events that happened or did you get involved in any of them?

I saw it was happening, but then at the time, I was doing work and filming stuff, so I didn’t have time to be a part of it. I love all that stuff. I love the fact that they do that because it’s fun stuff for all of us. It’s not a regular class. You’re excited to do something different.

I’m a huge fan of not just the products but also the company itself. Is there anything that you nerd out about the company itself? Whenever we went to Homecoming, they had big foam high fives. I nerded out about that, that they gave out. Is there anything that you love you’re a fan of?

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I feel like we could add some mimosas. We could add alcohol and pizza. Sometimes we should be rewarded for killing it.

I feel like it’s a real shame you couldn’t go back in time at a time machine and go to the studio whenever they first opened because they used to have parties in the studio with all of the members. They weren’t supposed to have things in their solo cups, but they had stuff in their solo cups. It was a blast.

I only did two in my life. You would kill it with all your friends, do the mud run and then everyone will go to the bar and celebrate after.

It motivates you and let all that adrenaline out in another healthy way. I know that you mentioned you had worked on a collaboration. There are lots of other collaborations that Peloton is working on. Would that be something that you might be interested in with Peloton in the future? If so, what would you envision that looking like?

A collab like what?

They did the thing with Shonda Rhimes, where it was the Year of Yes. It was all inspirational. What if they had a Snooki version where it was like people being real?

I’d be down for that. All real, no filter because that’s me all the time, especially as a mom. We had Mother’s Day, everyone was posting all these glamorous pictures and their dresses at brunch with their kids, these Ralph Lauren outfits and here’s me begging my kids to take a picture with me at 7:00 at night so I could do my post. We’re all in pajamas. No one’s looking at the camera, everyone’s yelling at me and I have no makeup on. I’m a mess. I don’t get real like that and not try and make everything look like it’s perfect because it’s not. That would be my thing, is keeping it real. The classes would be all house music.

Do you ever take Ben Alldis’ classes? He does a lot of house music. He’s one of the UK instructors. Have you ever tried a DJ Ride or Run?

DJ is so cute because he’s so dramatic and gets into it. Two minutes in, he’s sweating more than me. I love his vibes.

He’s motivational and real on his Instagram.

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He watches you while you’re dying.

I love how he talks about his struggles with body image, mental health issues and open about all that. I love that about him. What about the shop that you have? There’s a couple of locations.

I had The Snooki Shop online for a while. I always wanted to have a physical store to be like, “I have a cute little shop, come in.” I ended up opening that years ago. I opened a new one in November 2020, a town close to where I grew up, Beacon, New York. I have my one here in Madison, New Jersey. I’m looking at places in Long Island because I have a lot of fans there and Long Island is amazing. I’m trying to expand. I love being a store owner because I love clothes and leopards. The fact that I can have a store filled with leopard stuff, I love it.

Did you open a store in November 2020?

In the middle of COVID?

I don’t know why. I don’t think about things. I feel like that’s why I’m so successful because I don’t think and I go. Usually, it just happens and it works out. I decided to open in November 2020. It’s not the best but it’s working.

You don’t get in your head about stuff. You just do it.

I’m a Sagittarius, so I just go. I feel like if I think about it too much, it’ll never happen. I go with my gut feeling. I’m intuitive. I was like, “This has to happen right now.”

Does your actual home closet look the way a boutique does? I envision that it does for some reason.

The colors in my boutique are black and white and then hints of gold. My walk-in closet is black and white tile. There’s gold everywhere. When I built my house, I made sure I had this closet and I was like, “I’m going to pretend this is like my store but it’s my closet.” Everything came to life.

Are you drowning in Peloton-branded clothes as well or are you like, “I got my own boutique. I don’t need that stuff?”

I like to support myself, but I also love Peloton. When I do work out, I’m either wearing Snooki Sport, which is my stuff or Walmart.

She said keeping it real. You don’t get much more real than Walmart.

I have a little bit of an addiction to Via, the boutique.

I go to Walmart once a week. It’s bad.

You can’t just buy one thing when you go to Walmart. It’s all the things.

Do you have any advice for people getting a bike or tread?

I told Jenni this because she got the bike. Now, she’s on it every single day and she’s getting better and better. I warned her. I was like, “Girl, it’s not easy. Do not take Kendall’s class. Go to the beginner’s class.” People try the bike out and they’re not ready for it yet. It can be discouraging and be like, “I made a mistake. This is not for me.” Take it slow. It takes time to be able to go into the intermediate classes. It took me three months to be able to do an intermediate class on the bike. Don’t be discouraged. Keep going. I’ve been there. I’m still there when I get on the bike because I’ve been running. When I do go on the bike, I’m like, “I’m a beginner again. This sucks.”

I always find that so interesting that you would think running would make you better on the bike, but it makes me worse on the bike. My output goes down. I could run every single day. I get on that bike and my output goes down. It drives me nuts.

It’s crazy because my output on the tread is almost 400. My output on the bike is 120. I’m like, “Now I know where I’m good at.” I like running.

I get that though. It makes you feel like you’re better at it.

It does for me, but there’s also something running that’s a little more meditative than a spin class. I love spin classes, but there’s something about the rhythm of running that makes it a little more meditative.

I feel like I’m moving more. I feel like I’m killing myself more because you’re moving your whole body. On the bike, I feel like I’m shitting but my legs are burning. I do love spin in a class. Once Peloton opens, I’m there for class, but just me on the bike, I can’t get motivated.

Are you comfortable with sharing your leaderboard name with people or no?

I do have Mama, which is my public one. I have it on there because I got so many requests that it was overwhelming. I was like, “I want to work out.” I do have the Mama one, but I haven’t been on there. I do have my private one that I’m going to keep private. That’s what I use every day.

Thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate it. This was a lot of fun. We do appreciate you taking time out of your day. I know you have more important things than our little dog and pony show. Thank you.

I got a break from the kids, so thank you.

I guess that brings this episode to a close.

It does. That wasn’t a trick.

I know. You seem so hesitant to say. You don’t want the Snooki episode to ever end. You have so much fun.

I did have so much fun. It was surreal.

What pray tell do you have in store for people in the next episode?

We are going to talk to Ben Ptashinsky who used to work at Disney as one of the actors who were in the Frozen Show and the Hoop-Dee-Doo Revue and among a million other shows. He’s a comedian and he’s been voted the top comedian in Orlando many times. I’m super excited about this conversation.

I will add a tease to that. Because it’s Disney and we needed to prove it’s a small world, we will have at the end of the next episode, quite possibly the biggest coincidence in the history of coincidences. It’s hysterical. You’ll definitely want to tune in to our next episode and stick around to the end to find out what this major coincidence is. That’s it for this one. Until next time, where can people find you?

People can find me on Facebook at They can find me on Twitter, Instagram, the bike and the tread @ClipOutCrystal.

You can find me on Twitter@RogerQBert or Facebook at Find the show online at While you’re there, like the page and join the group. Don’t forget to check out our YouTube channel where you can watch our episodes and see all the interviews and all the faces Crystal makes at me when I say something that upsets her. That’s it for this one. Thanks for tuning in. Until next time, keep pedaling and running.

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About Nicole ‘Snooki’ Polizzi

TCO 208 | Busy MomNicole Elizabeth LaValle (née Polizzi; born November 23, 1987), best known by her nickname Snooki, is an American reality television personality.

She is best known for being a cast member of the MTV reality show Jersey Shore and starring in Snooki & Jwoww and Jersey Shore: Family Vacation.


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