352. It’s A Peloton Block Party Plus Our Interview With Tisha Montgomery!

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  • “Blocking,” “Hide Tags,” and “Pace Calculation” have arrived.
  • We know Power Zones for the Tread are close (thanks to a CDE leak).
  • NBA superstar Josh Hart makes in-studio appearance.
  • New York Road Runners start rolling out Peloton partnership.
  • USA Today writes about the popularity of streaming fitness.
  • Peloton’s Spring Sale features $700 off a Tread or Row.
  • Roundtable interview with Bear Grylls.
  • Sam Yo announces a book. Marcel Dinkins is back.
  • Leanne Hainsby spoke to Women’s Health about training while on chemo.
  • Adrian Williams and Alex Toussaint team up for a message about mental health.
  • Ross Rayburn celebrates 5-years with Peloton.
  • DJ John Michael celebrates 10-years with Peloton with a class and a single.
  • The latest artist series features Joan Jett.
  • TCO Top 5.
  • This week at Peloton.
  • New Brittany Allen collab drops.
  • Plus a collection with Rapha.
  • Birthdays -Sam Yo (3/16), Marcel Dinkins (3/17), Peloton (3/17), Jefferey McEachern (3/18)


All this plus our interview with Tisha Montgomery!

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It’s A Peloton Block Party Plus Our Interview With Tisha Montgomery!

This is interesting because we’re using a new system. We have cameras in the room instead of using our webcams that mount our computer. I get to look at you in real life, which I haven’t been able to do for 200 episodes.

It’s so nice to gaze into your eyes.

Yes, it’s very nice. We’re kicking it old school. I’m shy again. I know. She’s looking at me. I think she likes me.

I love you.

Somedays are more than others. I guess let’s start off by talking about the book club.

We had the most recent book club and we talked about The 5 Second Rule with Mel Robbins. It was an interesting discussion. How do I say delicately? It was a great discussion because there were a lot of feelings about this book.

It was not universally embraced. A lot of people were like, “I know that.”

It took the pressure off because we were able to go down some different kinds of roads, the things we did take away from it that were good. I enjoyed the conversation. We have had some very special book clubs and this one was special for a different reason than some of the other ones we have been to.

I feel like this was the one where it was the most lively conversation in terms of everyone chiming.

I agree and I liked that. It was different and it was good different. Next, we are going to be reading Maid by Stephanie Land and we will be talking about that book on April 9th at 7 PM Central, 8 PM Eastern, so hopefully, you will join us.

Just a friendly reminder, if you want to take part in a book club, we’d love to have you. It doesn’t cost anything. You do need to go over and join our Patreon, but people at the free level can get access so it does not cost you anything. If you go over to Patreon.com/TheClipOut and sign up, then you will get the Zoom link and all the information for how to access that and hang out. We’d love to have you. Before we get too far afield, we should do our first Bingo call out of the episode.

Mila Lazar is bingo number one.

We’re burning through these.

We need to figure out what we’re giving people when they like their chance to win because everybody who finishes their Bingo card is going to be able to submit to win. We’re going to need to figure that out.

A laurel and hearty handshake. We also have our guest, Tisha Montgomery.

She was a lot of fun to talk to. A huge Peloton fan. That’s what we do here. She’s a joy to talk to. You’ll enjoy that conversation.

What else pray tell do you have in store for people?

There is a lot of news. We’re going to talk about some new features that popped up on the app. We’re going to talk about the rumor mill that’s coming and some things that have appeared on the mill. We’re going to talk NBA. Tom and I are going to talk about the NBA. Don’t worry, Nikki has been here. We have some news to share from the New York Road Runners Association. We also have several different updates for instructors. Lots of stuff is going on, artist series updates. We will also be talking about lots of content that dropped, some in case you missed it things, and there are a lot of birthdays as well. We also have a special segment that we are doing because we have an interview with Bear Grylls. It’s a round table format and it’s pretty short, but we wanted to include it because it was a cool opportunity.

This is part of the Arthur the King press thing that you got to do. They let us talk to Bear Grylls. They let me talk to you even though I didn’t do any of the tough guy stuff. You did it all for me.

I did wipe the mud off to do this interview. I took them from my face.

Everybody started by putting mud all over their face and I was like, “We’re going to get canceled. You can’t do that.”

They made it very clear that it was plain old mud. That was disgusting. It’s a cool opportunity to talk to somebody that was involved. He’s the narrator of the film Arthur the King. As a reminder, that is starting this Friday the 15th. If you haven’t made plans for the weekend, you should go check it out.

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We shall.

We talked about how we have new features rolling out, hide tags, pace calculation, and blocking.

Hide tags are the ability to block tags when you’re on the leaderboard and there are certain tags out there that you don’t want to see. You can also block people. You can go straight into the app and block people from there if you happen to have a stalker.

Your stalker was very polite because he blocked you before you could block him. Thanks for listening, buddy.

After making a huge deal about not blocking people. Anyway, that is nice because if you’re on the app, now you can search for a person. You don’t have to be in a class or be on your tread or be on your bike to do it. Pace calculation is the other thing. We did talk about this as well, but we want to make sure that you understand this is on the app and this is for if you take an outdoor walk. At the end of it, it’ll say, “What was your mileage,” and then it will calculate your paces for you. That’s pretty convenient and it’s it’s super easy to use for both of those things.

We know Power Zone Treads. We’ve known this for a while. We talked about it. A Power Zone for the tread is coming, but I guess they’re closer than we think. Thanks to Christine D’Ercole. We know that. Thanks to her.

I feel like it was Matt originally. Somebody said in an Ask Me Anything on Reddit that it’s coming. I can’t remember who that was. We knew that for sure but Christine D’Ercole posted a story on Instagram where she had images of her husband taking an FTP test on the tread and then ten seconds later, that story disappeared. We have confirmed with members who listen that it is currently being beta-tested. Hopefully, we will see that rolled out soon. I think that we can all expect to see it in the very near future.

It would sound as such. Do you think that she didn’t realize it was in beta and her husband was doing the test? She’s like, “It’s on my thing. It must be good to go.”

I don’t know. What occurred to me that happened was that sometimes dates are released and it’s like, “We can talk about this after such date.” Maybe that date got pushed back for whatever reason.

A finger slip where it was like, “We said March 10th, not February 10th.”

I don’t know exactly what happened there. Let’s not make a huge deal about this because we don’t want Peloton to yell at Christine.

Not at all. It’s just amusing things like that.

I know you know that. I worry that when people hear this, they’re going to go say something to Christine and she’s going to get worried about it, then they’re going to go say something. We knew it was coming. We now know it’s coming very soon.

Thank you, Christine.

NBA superstar Josh Hart made an in-studio appearance.

He was on a ride with Alex Toussaint. You know, Tom, that I don’t know much about the NBA.

I know even less. When I was writing NBA superstar, I was like, “Is he?” I don’t know and so I went to look at his Wikipedia page and it was long. I’m like, “If there’s been that much time editing his Wikipedia page, he must be a superstar. If you’re not a superstar, Josh Hart, I have just promoted you, but I think you probably are.

We announced that Peloton had four new NBA ambassadors. Since then, we have learned definitively from Peloton that each of those NBA players that were mentioned was a Peloton member already. As far as how Peloton will continue to use these ambassadors in marketing will remain to be seen. We did ask the question since it’s Women’s History Month, are we going to be seeing any WNBA players? We were told, “We have nothing to say at this time.” Raise your eyebrows and assume that’s coming soon too. In the meantime, they called this ride with Josh Hart the third-quarter ride. I was like, “Are we in the fiscal third quarter?” I had no idea what that meant. Nikki stepped in. Thank God. She said there is a tactical importance to the third quarter of a basketball game and how teams manage it. Did you know this?


Sometimes you do know weird things like this. Essentially, the third quarter sets the tone for the second half of the game and shows which team has made better adjustments from the first half. Teams that can play well in the third quarter typically are more successful overall. She is not a basketball expert. She’s way better at sports than us. If she didn’t get everything there, that’s okay. That is why they called it the third-quarter ride, which we never would have gotten. It’s March. I figured they couldn’t say March Madness, but it had something to do with that.

That’s College. This is professional.

I know that.

I know that much. We struggle with the sports.

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That’s happening or I guess it happened.

A while back, it was announced that the New York Roadrunners have partnered up with Peloton and we’re starting to see more of that stuff come to fruition.

Peloton is going to be present at the New York Road Runners half. They’re going to be teaming up to do some ShakeOut runs. IThere are there’s a link that you can sign up to be part of these ShakeOut runs. I glanced at the link to sign up. It looked like it was $80 a person. This is not necessarily from the Peloton partnership. It’s unknown, but Gentry will be one of the announcers for ABC for the New York Road Runners this year. That’s coming up soon. They said 25,000 runners are expected this weekend. This interested me from a marketing standpoint. We’re in the middle right now of the lottery for the New York City Roadrunner, the full Marathon. I get the timing. Do the half, and then once that’s all done, now we can focus on who made it into the fall. Got it.

They have a lot on their plate.

It makes total sense. It makes logical sense. It was interesting to me.

USA Today wrote about the popularity of streaming fitness.

It was fascinating to me because they talked about how it’s so much more affordable at home to workout, and not just affordable monetarily but also time-wise. These are the things we know because we’re all Peloton users and if you’re able to work out at home, that’s going to save so much time and if you have a piece of Peloton equipment, you understand all of that aspect as well. They also go into it to talk about how there are a lot cheaper ways to do it. If you can’t afford a Peloton, they spell all that out, like get the app and then get a cheaper piece of equipment.

There are still all of these different kinds of workouts that you can get to. I know it sounds like this was an ad for Peloton but it wasn’t. They also talked about Apple Fitness and I think there were a couple of other streaming services that they mentioned. In general, it seems that right now, a lot of people are either at home all together or they’re doing, like we talked about what would happen, there would be a hybrid. A lot of people might go to the gym for maybe weights that they don’t have at home or a pool that they don’t have at home, but the rest of it, they’re doing at home.

You have to think, those app-only people, whenever the time comes that they decide to add a piece of equipment when they get to that point in their life, whether it’s financially or have a living arrangement where they can have a piece of equipment that large because sometimes it’s about space. You have to think if you’ve been using the Peloton app for the last five years and you finally have a house and you have room for a tread or a bike, most of those people are going to be like, “Give me the Peloton bike. I’ve been using the app for the last five years. I can finally have the real thing.” Not to shame people who are Apple-only or something like that. If you’re getting a piece of equipment, I do think there’s going to be a perception for a lot of people that a Peloton bike is “real.”

Yeah, because it has the integration to do a lot of things. I also think that there’s a subset of people who don’t want to pay that much for a bike. They might even have a home. Maybe they were technically on paper. They could afford it. They just don’t want to. Either way, it’s such a great option for people and you get hooked to these instructors. We talked about parasocial relationships, but there’s also a solid level of instruction that’s occurring. Don’t get me wrong. It’s not just Peloton. There are other streaming services, but we’re here to talk about Peloton.

Pelotons are better.

You’re not wrong.

There’s not an Apple Fitness podcast unless they’re doing it.

They might be.

Nobody’s listening to it so we’re good. Pelotons also has a spring sale right now, which gets you $700 off a tread or a row and that’s Tread or Tread+.

Great great call out. I thought this was weird that last week, they had all of the instructors. They were all doing this weird push for Treads and then you get a friends and family discount and that was an extra $200 off the Tread+

On top of the $700?

Yes. Everyone is like, “Are they hurting the tread sales? What is what is happening?” People were genuinely concerned. Everything we’ve heard coming from Peloton is they’re not hurting on the sale. I don’t know what this is about. I have no idea.

It makes me wonder if it’s another A/B test if we talk about something in class.

This was all on IG.

I thought they were saying in a class, then I guess it could be social media or A/B test.

Maybe, or if we offer 9 versus 7, does that push people over the edge? I thought it was interesting that they had instructors structuring it as a friends and family sale. That was interesting because they were embracing that whole parasocial relationship. I hear Matty Maggiacomo, “You’re my friend, buy my special discount.”

You bought a second Tread+ because of that.

I didn’t but I totally would.

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People will get upset that you’re a close personal friend of Matty Maggiacomo.

Matty says I need to buy this. What else is he going to do?

I do wonder if they’re testing the waters if instructors push something that doesn’t move the needle, especially when they have so many people that have bikes that don’t have Treads or rows. Does that get them over the hump?

That’s a great question.

It would be interesting to see too, was it only bike instructors who also teach on Tread or row or was it bike-only instructors?

It was tread-only instructors that I remember. I don’t remember them doing both.

That seems silly.

I didn’t pay that much attention because when it started, it was one instructor and the next thing, you know, it’s a bunch. I just tuned out. I see everything so I stopped looking.

I know that they’re pushing the row as well, but to have a tread-only instructor pushing the tread seems silly because you have to figure most of the people following the tread-only instructor probably already have a tread.

Unless they’re looking at it like okay but they might have a Soul or they might have a NordicTrack. Now is your time.

I think that it’d be a more target-rich environment if it’s a bike-only instructor.

I know one was Matty and he does strength and tread so maybe that was the thought process. I truly did not pay attention to who else was out there. I have failed.

Coming up after this, we’re going to have our Round Table interview with Bear Grylls talking about Arthur the King so stick around.

Tom O’Keefe with The Clip Out podcast and I was curious. Have you ever found yourself in a situation where you were truly frightened for your own survival?

In terms of that, there have been a lot of those moments in my life over the years. Even as a young soldier doing a lot of the combat survival training we did, there were endless scary moments. Scary moments being part of my life from the high mountains from Everest to expeditions through the jungles through the Arctic in little boats across oceans, and through so many of the filming adventures as well, from Man versus Wild and even a few hairy moments on the running worlds with some of these Hollywood stars. I think that I’ve learned that the world is a humbling place. You only get it wrong once. You have to be smart and our friendships matter. The people you’re with matter and I think this film speaks to that and it’s what I loved about Michael.

Crystal O’Keefe, The Clip Out podcast. I would like to know what your top three snacks are for foraging when you’re out in the wilderness.

The main thing is don’t go for the big game because it’s high risk. You’ll get it and then you can only do so much. The great survivors are foragers. You can move and live off the berries, the grubs, the roots, and the bugs as well. If you’re a forager prioritize your fluids ahead of the food and your safety as well as you move. I think those are top tips. Number one. Don’t take unnecessary risks because if you get injured out in the world on your own, you’re in trouble. Prioritize water ahead of food, and then you look for food as a forager.

Denise Reyes Univision. You’ve worked or you’ve been with a lot of celebrities, which one has been the one that’s been the most interesting or fun to be with in your adventures?

Running wild. We’ve done eight seasons of that show taking so many amazing people. President Obama stands out. I don’t know. I’m a huge tennis fan I love doing the Roger Federer one. I think in terms of Julia Roberts. She was incredible and we did a medical project in Africa together for that running wild journey. I did the Bradley Cooper one this last season. It was a special one because he was such a cool guy. We stay friends and he’s got a gentle humble strong kind heart. It’s always great when you get good connections with good people. I think that one stands out.

How’s it going? Alex Ford, Bossip.com. I need to know. What is the most delicious strange or weird thing you’ve ever eaten in the wild?

The delicious things are definitely the disgusting things. The bad things are all the goat testicles, yakai bulls, rat brain, skunk anus, and all of that. I’ve learned that if you grill things enough over a five, you get a scorpion and you grill it long enough. You grill anything long enough. You put it over the fire and char grill it, it’s going to taste better. Fire is your friend when it comes to food.

Brad Perry, CW7 Arizona. I was told I could win points by calling you General. General, how long does it take to become a Survivor champion?

I think we’re all survivor champions. It’s all about the spirit inside. Skills come and go. Anyone can ask because you’re learning skills. It’s great but survival is more than skills. Survival is heart and courage, and that’s not exclusive to people who have been trained. I’ve seen the most incredible courage, bravery, commitment, and resilience from the most unlikely people who have had no survival training. That’s what I love about adventure and the same on these adventure races.

For this film, the reward together with the dog and they’re determined, not those who are best at whittling at whatever out of a bit of wood. Survival is so much more than that. Adventure racing is so much more than that. It’s about relationships and it’s about courage in the big moments and kindness. It’s another big factor that people forget about, being kind to each other in crisis moments, and then having that never-give-up attitude ultimately is what wins. You guys have it. It’s not exclusive to adventurers or survivalists. It’s in us all. It’s how we’ve survived for so long.

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This question is not about skunk anus. I promise. Joey Thurman. Mental health is big with me and a lot of people and often when you’re surviving, you’re alone. A lot of people feel alone by themselves, but also around other people. What’s your advice? What have you learned from surviving and being alone or being around people and how can you help people get out of that from your experiences?

Loneliness is different from being alone. We can be surrounded by people in a big city and feel lonely. We can sit on a mountain on our own and feel incredibly connected. It’s understanding that difference but also knowing that we’re designed for a relationship. What’s beautiful about this film is it’s all about relationships. Some things matter more than winning. The friendship with Arthur and the friendship with each other.

The lesson is the same for us. We need human connection. You’ve got to reach out. You have to be vulnerable to people close to you. Same in adventure racing, same in life. In terms of survival and life, one plus one never equals two in survival. It equals about five or six. For anyone struggling to reach out, be honest. Know the power of family and friends and connection. You’re not alone. There are so many people in all of our lives who’ve got our back if we’re honest enough to say at the moment things that are hard. Vulnerability always graces bonds and connections, and where their bonds are strength.

Jeremy Carroll, Movie Guide. When you’re in a survival situation and you’re approaching the brink, what is the thing that motivates you to keep surviving to keep pushing on? Is it family or faith? What is it for you?

I think faith has for me always been a driving force. As you say, life, big mountains, big expeditions, and adventure racing. You’re going to reach a crux time where everything is going wrong and you’re tired and you’re broken. You haven’t slept. You are hungry and you have blisters. Welcome to the storms of life, whether it’s Special Forces selection, Everest, or this adventure race. It’s part of the process, but I think for me is understanding that when you’re in that crux time, make that a trigger, make that a trigger to give more because what happens when most people are when they get there, that’s when they give up.

I think a big part of the message of this film is giving more in the big moments, being that bigger person, going for after not for the win, having that never-give-up resilience spirit. Look at Michael’s story from the fundraising all the way through the race. It was all about never giving up. In the crux time, step up, deliver, have that never-give-up spirit and you’ll separate yourself from people around you in a good way.

Daniel Terrell from Outdoors.com.

How are you guys?

Good. What do you prefer more, the book or the movie?

I’m a real movie guy. I read so slowly. I’ll read a short chapter a night. I’ve tried and read and I like reading. I think when you get a special book, it’s always going to stay with you, but I love this movie. I love this story. I knew this story. I remember reading about this story when it first came out. I didn’t read the book. I remember reading the press stuff about it and seeing it brought to life is awesome.

Mark is such a cool guy. He always follows stories that are a rich and human heart and relationships. Simu is one of our running guests. When I saw he was in it, I thought that’s a cool combination with a great story, a true story, and then of course, with a beautiful relationship with a dog, and who doesn’t love that? Animals are such a beautiful part of my life as well. It is a privilege to play a small part in this beautiful film.


Sam Yo announced that he is writing a book.

I know you guys are booked out. You’re not alone in that but here’s what I will say. I’m excited about the fact that Sam is writing a book because he has a background that we don’t know that much about. He talks about it and he’s open about the fact that he used to be a monk. He used to do all these other things, but we haven’t heard the whole story. I would like to hear the whole story and I think that it’s pretty darn cool that he’s going to. Also, how cool it was that he was on the Bruce Lee podcast and that’s where he dropped this. This book is expected to be published in 2025. We have some time.

We have some time to finish up the books that are stacking up on your nightstand.

Here is the opening line to Sam’s book according to Sam. He says, “Your soul is an unfolding jigsaw puzzle and through your life, you collect pieces by being open to experiences that come your way. It doesn’t sound like Sam. You can’t go wrong listening to Sam’s advice. I’m just saying.

That’s why we saw Guys and Dolls.

It was amazing.


Marcel Dinkins is back at work.

She was out due to an injury to her ACL. She is back and she started her classes on the tread. I think it was Monday that she had a 30-minute Hip Hop run and then she had a couple of other classes on the tread as well. My understanding is she will be still in Virginia, whatever it’s called. I don’t live in Virginia. She was there last year though, and don’t forget, she’s bringing friends to that particular half marathon.

Is that code for other Peloton people or is she bringing some friends?

We don’t know but I feel like it means Peloton instructors.

People show up expecting Becs Gentry. Instead, you get like, “This is a girl I went to college with.”

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You never know, but Marcel was in the military. I don’t remember what branch. I think it was Army, but she always talks about during that time how she learned to be tough and she learned to be resilient and things like that. Maybe she’ll show up with a bunch of Army friends and kick everyone’s ass.

Especially if you bitch about one of the Peloton instructors not being in there.

Congrats on being back, Marcel. You have been missed.

Leanne Hainsby talked to Women’s Health Magazine, the UK edition, talking about the challenges of training while getting chemo.

That’s got to suck. It is a lot. People might remember when we interviewed someone local here to Saint Louis, an amazing lady all around but what a badass. I will never forget when she said to us that she did an entire Ironman, not a half Ironman, an entire Ironman while on chemotherapy. I know that Leanne is doing the marathon and I am in no way saying only a marathon. Take those words out of your brain. The other thing is that Leanne is on record saying that she hasn’t been enjoying the running or even enjoying the aspect of running. To push yourself in general and push yourself while you’re trying to get healthy and taking this chemo that is literally saving your life, but also making you miserable at the same time. That’s a lot. I think about how tough it is for me on days I don’t feel 100%.

One time I did a Tonal when I was tired. I’m basically a Leanne Hainsby.

I’m impressed that she’s doing that. I know that she’s going to appreciate crossing that finish line. When I crossed the finish line at Big Sur, I’m not Leanne Hainsby, but it was a good idea.

You just got hit by a car.

It was twelve weeks to the day after I got hit by a car.

The blisters on your feet are the size of your feet.

It was bad and I remember this huge surge of emotion that I had done it because I wasn’t sure that I could. Like me, she will do it and she will I believe feels amazing that it was worth all the not-great days to get there. Good for her for embracing life. That’s what’s cool. You do only get one and I’m a firm believer in doing things.

Adrian Williams and Alex Toussaint teamed up for a special message about mental health.

It was a very nice message about you don’t have to be hard all the time as a man. I love it, but did you notice that this wasn’t about Peloton? It took place in Alex’s home gym, and it had Alex’s logo in the bottom left-hand corner, not Peloton’s, and also it was recorded and edited by an outside publishing house. Why do I mention all that? I think something bigger is coming, like a very big brand. He’s continuing his empire-building. I don’t know what that’s going to be. I have no idea. I’m just context clues. This was not a Peloton ad.

The other interesting thing is there were Peloton elements in the ad, so clearly, Peloton knows what he’s doing. I don’t mean this is under the radar but I find it interesting because Chelsea was very briefly in the video. Adrian does not do Peloton yoga on the platform of Peloton, then a few weeks ago, Tunde was briefly in his basement filming that new segment. What does all this mean? This was a nice message, but not the point. I think we’re about to see something big and I’m very curious about what that will be. Also, I have had some people mention and I have to agree with this, that the message seemed very counterpoint to sitting in his beautiful gym that a lot of people could never dream to afford. That’s all I say about that.

I get the point on the one hand, but on the other, he is who he is. He’s a Peloton instructor. He has means and if all of a sudden, he’s filming in the same gym Rocky was filmed in now, now it looks like he’s going out of his way to go slumming it to hide his success or his money. There’s that no-win situation.

That’s a very fair point. I’ve wondered this before about instructors and I’ve said this before. Some of them are so out there with all the different things that they do. I don’t blame them for that. I think that you need to embrace that while you can. I also think there is a fine line where people are willing to follow you because you came from a certain place and if you are no longer seem and you are showing that you are from that place, people might think that you have forgotten it. I do not envy any of these instructors trying to walk that line.

Especially when you’ve talked in the past about how it seems some instructors get a pass on that and some don’t, and like why?

I don’t know. I can’t answer that question. It is a lot to unpack.

In terms of the whole, he’s in a fancy gym talking about mental health, mental health isn’t always about having things. Kurt Cobain had all the things. It’s so easy to look at people who seem like they have all the things and then say, “You don’t have anything to complain about.” It doesn’t always work that way. It is a delicate line to walk in terms of acknowledging that maybe you have access to things that other people don’t but that still doesn’t mean that you don’t have struggles.

Well said. Either way, watch the space because we will keep you updated, but I do think we’re about to see something drop from Alex’s camp.

Ross Rayburn is celebrating five years with Peloton.

I enjoyed writing this article because I got to go back down Ross’s memory lane of all the little things. He’s done a lot in five years. Ross is a special person. Congrats to Ross.

Also, Jess King is celebrating ten years. She has some classes coming up to commemorate that.

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This Friday is the same day that this episode drops. She will be doing a special DJ class where she will be celebrating her ten years with Peloton.

Also in that class, DJ John Michael will be releasing a new single.

DJ John Michael remixed this song. It is a Donna Summer song and he will be premiering it in the class that is celebrating Jess King’s ten years together.

It seems fitting the song She Works Hard for the Money.

It doesn’t it does seem fitting for both of them. They’re both celebrating their ten years. That’s probably not a coincidence that that’s a special class for both of them.

Stick around, coming up after this, we’re going to talk about the latest artist series and give you the TCO Top Five.


The latest artist series features none other than Joan Jett.

What is the name of that big song that she had in the ‘80s?

I Love Rock and Roll.

That was iconic like her whole look was iconic.

She also was in The Runaways with their big song Bad Reputation. You see that popping up in movies and TV shows all the time.

I am excited about this one, not Pink level excited but probably Green Day level excited. I feel like this is one of those that you will enjoy every single song that comes on and have a great time.

She also does a cool cover of the Mary Tyler Moore Theme.

Really? That’s weird. I need to hear that now. Thanks for ruining me by making me watch all these old television shows.

You’re welcome.

One more artist series that I wanted to make sure and bring up because this is another one that apparently somebody dropped too soon and then they took it off. Defected Records is teaming up with Peloton. They posted that there’s going to be a series of rides. Ben has one out there, but there’s going to be two more and I know Leanne was one of the instructors and then I think the other one was Hannah. but I don’t know. It was another person. Defected Records sounds like all EDM Wave Club. If that’s your jam, you have some exciting classes coming up.


Before we dig into content, let’s do our second Bingo call out of the episode.

Sam Yo is bingo number two.

We time that with his book announcement.

We thought we’d hold it.

Because we knew months ago. Let’s take a gander at the TCO Top Five. We put out the eagle call and ask you to let us know what your favorite classes are then we share them with people who are maybe looking for things to do. We will start off with number one. These aren’t in order. This is how we put them out there. It’s not a countdown that I’m getting at. Number one, your favorite Peloton Pilates.

This is with Kristin McGee from June ‘23. It was a 20-minute 2000s Pilates. Carrie Gormley highlighted this. She says, “It’s a delightful walk down the 2000s memory lane with the hits from the likes of Beyonce, Maroon 5, and John Mayer.” That’s fun. Kristin is so good at queuing and pushing you without even realizing it. It had a great playlist and Carrie felt empowered after taking the class.

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Number two is your favorite Peloton run.

This class is instructed by Mariana Fernandez back in November of ‘23. It was a 45-minute interval run. Rich Glass shared this one. He said that he is recovering and slowly and steadily building back. I’m so glad to hear it. He says he has been trying to prep for his first ever 5K, “Not a big deal to experienced runners, but after some medical issues in ‘23, this is a big deal to me. I have found Mariana Fernandez on the tread and she’s a great instructor.” First of all,l she is and it is a big deal. Huge congrats on doing your first 5K ever and I know you’re going to rock it, Rich.

Number three, your favorite Peloton stretch.

This class was instructed by Adrian Williams on 2/25 of ‘24. It was a 10-minute Afrobeats full-body stretch. Helper Bee Nikki submitted this one and she said, “Adrian’s 10-minute Afrobeats full-body stretch is heavenly. The music is mellow and relaxing just like Adrian’s voice and he coaches you through a series of gentle stretches with long holds. By the end of the class, you’ll feel stretched out and totally relaxed.”

What I want to see is an unstackable stretch.

That sounds painful.

I’ll let you do it. Number four, a favorite Peloton ride.

This class was taught by Sam Yo from March ‘24 and it was a 45-minute Power Zone endurance ‘80s ride. Sonya Norman said this was her favorite class. She says, “It was a Power Zone addition of his video store series where the playlist is all songs from ’80s movies. The ride was hard for a Power Zone endurance ride with too long, 12 and 14-minute Zone 3 intervals. Sam is so good at programming, the music, and its commentary to flow with the workout that he’s able to keep you fully engaged even in the long intervals. I highly recommend his other video store rides as well.”

Number five, last but certainly never least, is your unstackable.

This class was taught by Logan Aldridge and it took place on March 10th of ‘24. It was a 30-minute full-body strength. Sarah Bell Combs said, “I took Logan’s 30-minute full-body class live. There was a 10-minute amrap ascending ladder of one burpee and one single arm snatch, right and left, then two of each, then 3 and up for 10 minutes. Brutal, unstackable, or fave, I’m still not sure.” There was a 6-minute EMOM with reverse lunges and squats to start. Not bad. I disagree, then a 5-minute EMOM to finish with a neutral grip, trust chest press in a hip bridge with single leg V-ups, and the last minute were 30 seconds each, 30 seconds of the chest press, and 30 seconds of the single leg V-ups. Definitely a burn of a finish. We’re still going to push that hashtag death by Logan.

I know that it must be difficult because I only knew about what a third of that meant.


EMOM, amraps with the V-ups, you don’t have to explain. I’m sure people know.

An amrap is as many reps as possible. EMOMs is each each minute on the minute, you change. You would do a minute of reverse lunges and then you would switch to squats. The V-ups, you’ve totally done these. They’re core exercises. You knew more than you thought.

While we’re talking about classes, let’s take a look at this week at Peloton.

One of the things that were interesting this week is that Ally Love dropped a 45-minute barre class on the platform and there are not a lot of these. That’s interesting. I’m not sure there’s ever been a 45-minute. That’s interesting and we think that it was scheduled for 9:30 AM, not PM. We checked the schedule and sure enough, it was AM. Just a little oopsy.

I’ve done that, scheduling an email blast and then I get to work and I’m like, “Why is this not sent out?”

No. They put on Instagram the picture that says it’s going to take place on March 13th at 9:30 PM Eastern. Nikki was like, “That sounds late for a barre class.” Sure enough. Yeah, definitely not.

We also have Rockstalgia.

This is a new signature series from Charlotte that dropped in. It is going back in time. It’s looking at legendary artists. It’s a German series, but I think these are not necessarily German artists.

I guess they are artists that mattered in Germany for their nostalgia.

Yeah, during their Golden Age. It says the Golden Age of Rock, so I am not sure where the Golden Age of Rock took place in Germany. I hesitate to say it’s not the same because it could have been. Don’t you know?

The Golden Age of Rock I think like the ‘50s and ‘60s.

I think I am a little too young to agree with you. We’ll see.

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Now I’m intrigued but not enough to do it.

It popped up. It hit so maybe we could go look on the app after this.

By we, you mean you and you’ll tell me all about it. I get my private Clip Out Patreon episodes.

It’s like a bonus bonus.

Jess King has A Decade Deserves a Dance.

Basically, it’s her DJ John Michael class.

You got World Sleep Day. Let’s sleep together.

World Sleep Day is legit. It’s on the 15th. This is a perfect time to take new classes. Peloton is going to be honoring that with new sleep meditations premiering all time zones at 11:00 PM on Friday, March 15th. There’s going to be a bunch that drops. That’s exciting. Lots of sleep meditations.


We have some new stuff in the world of apparel. We’ll start with the new Brittany Allen collection.

This is a beautiful set of purples and oranges and green chartreuse. I don’t know what to call that color. Let’s just say neon green. I love the purple. Especially the purple tie-dye. I love other people in the leopard set. It’s just not my jam, but I have to give my hat off to Brittany Allen how she pairs these colors and makes something. Leopard print has been around forever, but then to take it and put a whole new spin on it with these colors, it’s amazing. It’s not my jam but I love to look at it. It looks so good. Her tie-dye is amazing and I do want also the purple hoodie.

We also have a new collection with Rafa.

This is a very well-known brand of cycling clothing. This is exciting because people have been asking for this collaboration since I started at Peloton. We did have the one time that Matt Wilpers put out a collection and we got bibs and they were great bibs. I still have mine to this day. It’s not to knock on that but this is the only time that I have seen this many options because it is all Rafa which is a very well-known brand but you’ve got bibs. You’ve got rain jackets. You’ve got singlets. You’ve got tanks.

It’s a very very large collection and I’m happy to see it. I have a feeling this is going to sell very well. I did think it was super interesting that the Peloton branding is so tiny. For example, on the women’s top that goes over, it’s not a bib but the top goes over the bib. I can’t think of the name of it. I’m sure everybody’s laughing at me. It has this tiny little P on the back, about that big. That’s it but Rafa has understated branding themselves. I think that matched the aesthetic better.

It’s like when you put a McDonald’s in a fancy neighborhood and then they were like, “You can’t put up the arch into the whole thing?


We have three and a half birthdays. We’ll call it for this one. We will start with Sam Yo on March 16th. Because of his book announcement, we timed his birth to sync up with that. We also have one on March 17th, Marcel Dinkins.

That is also Saint Patrick’s Day.

We sync it at the time of her return.

It makes sense why she’s going to do the Virginia Half. It’s all coming together.

A birthday of sorts, Peloton on March 17th. This is the day they officially filed their incorporation papers. I have termed this Peloton’s birthday. They were officially Incorporated on March 17. Finally, Jeffrey McEachern on March 18th.

Happy birthday to one and all.

Coming up after this, we’re going to have our interview of the week with Tisha Montgomery, so stick around.


Joining us is Tisha Montgomery. How’s it going?

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How are you guys doing?

Tisha’s Peloton Story

Good. We are happy to have you here. I like to start with these conversations by understanding how you found Peloton and when in your journey that occurred.

In December 2020, I saw the commercial and things like for two months for a free trial. If you know me, you know that I love anything free. It makes me happy. I signed up as an app user. I was doing the hit workouts. I had a non-Peloton tread at the time and I would do a vlog on my Fire TV. That’s how I started.

You said, “At the time I had a non-Peloton tread.” It sounds like something has changed.

I had a gym membership before I fell by the wayside a long time ago. I used to take spin classes. One day via the app, I want to check out a spin class. I looked at it. It was Alex Toussaint Club Bangers. I was like, “I need this energy in my life.”

That was your happy place.

I was like, “The Peloton is that like good?” My husband got me a sunny bike from Amazon. I got that on my birthday in February. I started doing it on my sunny bike and watching it on TV, then I joined some Facebook groups like Black Peloton Riders and Black Girl Magic. They’re talking about this leaderboard and I was like, “I don’t have a leaderboard.”

You were like, “Wait a second. I’m missing options.”

I got the actual bike. I was happy. I was doing mostly just Alex because I love him so much and finally, I beard off the back and saw other people but it was mostly just Alex. My husband can never get used to the seat of the bike. I don’t know how many different seats compared to the bikes, but like, “Let your butt get used to it.” My husband is like, “No.” He runs. I said, “Get the tread for you.” He was like, “Okay,” so we got the Peloton tread. I took over the tread. When Kirsten and Marcel came in 2021, I was all about it. I wanted to be on the tread. Our poor bike is set to the wayside. It is still there. I love her. She’s my first love, but I’m all about that tread now and that’s how I started running and everything. I never ran like before. They made it look fun. I did the You Can Run Program and run a half marathon since then.

Huge congrats. That’s amazing. That’s so cool.

This sounds very similar to Crystal. She came in with the bike, got the tread and she runs way more than she used the bike.

I hardly ever use the bike. It sits there all sad.

I made a point though. I said, “I paid for this bike. I’m not going to call it done.” I do make it a point. It’s like fifteen minutes, I’m going to get on that bike at some point during each day every day.

It’s not sitting there all sad.

That’s perfect. You do your tread for ten minutes cool down, and then you do the bike.

Does your husband still get to use the tread at all?

He does. He’s out early. I’m not a morning workout person. People who get up at 5:00 and 6:00. I’m feeling bad at 7:00. He does it early in the morning. He runs at like 7:00 or 6:30. We don’t clash or have to fight because what’s he does his workout early in the morning. He’s done for the day. It’s all mine.

Working From Home

Do you work from home? Are you a stay-at-home mom? It sounds like you get to work out multiple times a day.

I work from home. My kids are teenagers. My son is in college and my daughter is fifteen. They’re pretty much on autopilot at this point. I work out before work. I work out during my lunch break usually after work. I call myself a live class. I rearranged everything to make a line. That’s my favorite. I’m going to make it.

I picture you getting meeting requests and you’re like, “I already have a meeting scheduled for that.”

I wish I could. I’m like, “I’m sorry. Peloton has to run at that time. I cannot you can’t possibly make it. I’m sorry.”

“I don’t know what to tell you.”

My husband’s like, “You need help.”

What do you do that allows you to work and work out from home?

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I’m a registered nurse. I used to work in the hospital. Now I just do telephonic advice over the phone.

I didn’t even know that was a thing.

I didn’t either, but it sounds amazing.

When I was working in the office, someone came to do a presentation and they were working from home and I was like, “Tell me about this work-from-home thing.” I started applying and it’s been many years since I’ve been working from home.

It was way before it was a thing.

When COVID happened, everyone was working from home, and I was at home.

It’s funny. if anyone ever gives you trouble sometimes there’s like an air of superiority from Peloton people, if they’re pre-pandemic people. You find it during the pandemic. You can be like, “How long have you been working from home?”

I worked out but not a serious workout. I would do YouTube videos of Fitness. I thought I did and rather than at home anyway. Once you work from home for so long you become a home by you don’t want to leave the house to get dressed, get to the gym, and work.

It seems like such an unnecessary hassle, especially when you have all these amazing things at home in front of you. I’m all about people finding whatever way they find to work out. I support that. My brain cannot comprehend these people who say, “I don’t want to work out at home. I’d rather go to the gym.” I cannot understand that at all.

I don’t get it either. I can get out of my basement and in five minutes, work out. I used to drive anywhere and make sure my outfit matched or anything. I just go down there.

Get there and find out the piece of equipment you wanted is occupied.

You can’t get into the class because you want to reset the sign-up for the spin classes and I go there, “We’re full,” like, “I came all the way.”

If there’s a weirdo scope and you’re out, it’s your husband and it’s okay. That’s preferred. You’ve selected that weirdo.

I like that weirdo.

Running A Half Marathon

You mentioned that you had done a half marathon. Are you training for anything in any sport right now or are you like, “I’m enjoying all the classes?”

I’m just enjoying the classes. I am going to do the Race in Atlanta. I’m only going to do the 5K this time because the hills are alive. You could not see on the top and it was a lot. It was an experience that I liked, “Just give me the 5K this time. I’m not going to do the Race in Atlanta.” I need some flat road.

What time of the year? I don’t know if you know this, but it gets hot. Sometimes they call it Hotlanta.

It was October. The weather was nice. It wasn’t too cold. I was able to run and have the bundle up or anything. I was able to do this with my sports bra and it was good weather. It looks good.

If you run with Marcel all the time, she always takes the hills.

I know, but these are not the same kind of hills.

I hear you because we live in Missouri. When I go running in any direction of my house, it does not matter. There are giant hills. I mean so freaking steep. I do it, but I usually go very slowly up those hills. There’s walking. I’m not ashamed of it. I remember one time I had taken a class with Marcel when I was training for the Big Sur. I was saying that I had taken a whole stack of classes. Marcel was in there and somebody was like, “Did you take the hill?” I was like, “No, I didn’t I kept it all flat because I was trying to do it endurance run.” It was like three hours long. They were like, “We always take the hill.” I was like, “No, not for me today.”

She did prepare me. We’re running up those hills and I was prepared for them, but it was a lot. That incline is a game-changer.

It gets your heart rate up. That’s for sure.

Have you worked out your whole life or is that a recent development?

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I was like a sports addict working out. I go to places like Amanda Gym all the time and then I’m not. I’m back and then I’m not. I would do a little something but I’ve never lifted weights before joining Peloton. I was in that weird mindset that women don’t get bulky if you lift weights. I didn’t and then I joined Peloton, I saw all these amazing women who were strong and I was like, “They were lifting weights,” I started doing some weight training and that’s a little definition here in there.

Now you want to bulk up.

Me and my husband play wrestle all the time and he always wins, but he has to work much harder now.

Going To The Studio

We have a Tonal, and Tom had never done any workouts up until he was 50. It’s been a few years now. I first started working out. When we would play fight, I could hold my own. Now, it’s the total opposite. It’s crazy. It’s funny. Now he does not have to work very hard at all. It’s annoying. Have you gotten to go to the studio since you joined Peloton?

I’ve been. My daughter was dancing in the Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade dance studio. I also did some classes while I was here because we were there for 4 or 5 days or so. That’s my first time going to the studio. I did a class with Tunde and Emma. I love Matt Wilpers. I got to a class with him, but I found out before Emma was subbing in for Matt. I was like, “Look at that.”

I pictured going like this. Matt Wilkers won’t be in this class today and she’s like, “Son of a b****h.”

I tell you what. The ladies lose their minds over Adrian. I feel if all the instructors, there are many women that don’t get tizzy about the instructors unless it’s Adrian and then it’s like all bets are off.

He’s a specimen of a man.

He is super nice. That does a lot for him.

I have muscles hurt. I never knew muscles existed anyway after that program. I was super strong after it. Was a good program.

Riding Without A Guide

That’s great. What a good recommendation. I love hearing that. Do you have a guide or do you do it like you use your screen from your bike, tread, or maybe put on the TV? How do you make that work?

That’s the purpose of a guy. It’s another thing. I don’t blame me for buying. I’m being from my bike or tread to the TV. I look at it that way. I’ll need to see my forms.

It’s more of a curiosity question because I feel like people find many different ways to do it. I forget there are many ways that you can use the Fire Stick or you can use Roku. A lot of their people use their phone and cast it to their screen. There are a lot of different ways. It doesn’t matter as long as it works for you. Who cares? I’m curious. I’m nosy.

I do stretching yoga in the morning. I stay upstairs and watch TV and go out on any equipment or what’s the purpose of doing that? I use FireTV a lot,  even my body weight classes on a great four. I said in my bedroom because I have to go downstairs for that.

Favorite Instructors

Especially, on a cold morning. It’s always cold in our basement. During the wintertime, I will always do yoga upstairs in the living room because I don’t want to go downstairs in the basement. It’s too cold for yoga. You’ve named quite a few instructors that you take classes with. I’m going to ask you a difficult question. Who is your favorite instructor?

I can’t.

Can you name a favorite per discipline?

I love Alex on the bike. He was the reason why I even wanted to get a bike. I love Kirsten, Marcel, and Joslyn. I love  Marcel. She’s funny. I like Adrian. I like everyone. I did German classes. I’ll have to understand what they’re saying. That playlist is awesome. I’m a big playlist person. I’m the person who picks the class by playlist. I go all about the music. I love them for all different reasons. I get my stat and you need to see different faces. I love jazz King and Sam.

Leaderboard Name

What is your leaderboard name?


Why that particular leaderboard name?

I’m an Aquarius. I’m a Queen.

Why sixteen?

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It’s my birthday, February 16th. AquariusQueen was taken by someone who hadn’t worked out since 1932 name it.

Belated happy birthday. We did an interview with someone who had the exact same issue with their leaderboard name, that someone gotten it first but has not taken a class in forever.

Peloton, you need to purge those people. Get them out of there. It’s a real thing. They’ve always purged classes  A lot of people don’t realize that because people make such a big deal about it now because 1) There’s a lot more people. That’s part of it. They do it more systematically. I think it’s more obvious to people but they’ve always purged classes and there has never been a year that somebody did not get upset about classes. That is an age-old concern all the way back to 2016 or 2017, “Why is my favorite class gone?” especially when you took a milestone, you got a shout-out or you got to go to the studio. The heartbreak is real.

Tisha’s Advice

Keep it forever especially if it’s a milestone, shout-out or you were in class. Capture it. Do you have any advice for people entering the world of Peloton?

Watch your own pace. I know that leaderboard can be intimidating and people always ask, “How do they have output and this.” You start to compare. Run your own way through your own thing. Have fun with it. I feel like once you start that comparison, it’s not funny anymore. You don’t want to do it anymore because you’re not having fun. Working out is fun for me. I don’t do it because I need to have to lose weight. I enjoy it. It is like therapy bro. You have the worst day, get on the tread or the bike and do something crazy.

If I’m in a bad or sad mood, I’ll hop on the bike with Cody and crack it up. I’m happy by the time I’m done. Use it as that. You do this or that. You work out so much but, don’t compare yourself to me because I have more time than most people. If you get on your bike or tread for 30 minutes a day, you’re still doing more than most people. Look at that. If you’ve done something for the day, you feel better about yourself. You enjoy doing it and mind you’re on pace. That’s my only advice for people because that leaderboard can be intimidating.

Closing Words

Thank you so much for taking time out of your day to join us. Before we let you go, let everybody know where they can find you in all the places if you would like to be found.

I’m on Instagram @AquariusQueen16_. I don’t have any other channels or anything. I love Instagram, posting stuff, and hopping on with my friends. I love this Peloton Community so much. I made some amazing friends and people. The support is real. The encouragement is real. That’s where I am. I’m going to encourage you to celebrate your milestones, birthdays, your kids’ birthdays and I love it all.

Thank you for being people’s cheerleader. I think all of us can use somebody else in our corner cheering us on. I’m sure people appreciate that and thank you for being there for people.

Thank you. I appreciate them too. It’s people you’ve never met before, maybe you haven’t heard their voices before and you are connected to them. It is amazing.

It’s pretty special. I agree with you. Thank you for your time.

Thank you so much.


I guess that brings this episode to a close. Until next time, where can people find you?

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